Sharon Bialek accuses Herman Cain of groping her

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by 1480

Exploitative is for anyone in a position of authority or respect, uses said status for personal gain. Personal gain can mean, money, influence, sex, favors and the list can go on.

A comparison that I labeled tenuous. As we are discussing matters of a sexual nature, we must confine ourselves to sexual matters. After all, one must concede that Clinton would have little to gain in material or political capital. We could only assume that his motives were purely physical.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

You know how much the right rolls their eyes when those on the left play the race card? Yeah, you're straying into that territory here.

I disagree with your remarks completely. Haplo is correct. Liberal Democrats are deathly afraid of hard working, independant, conservative minded, and accomplished people of color. Independant, responsible, and conservative minded people of color are dangerous to liberals as they fear the idea may spread to other minorities. They simply cannot allow it. Liberal Democrats truly believe that people of color need to be weak and dependant on government as a matter of course(i.e. live on the Democrat plantation). If a person of color succeeds without government(i.e."affirmative action") and seeks to advance on their merits in politics, education, or business....liberals will seek to discredit and if necessary destroy the character of that person. It's been done before.

Liberals simply are not the tolerant, compassionate people they claim they are.

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Where there's smoke, there's fire, Hap. If bringing about random unfounded accusations of sexual harassment were an effective means of taking out your political opponents, then it would be standard practice. It's not, so reason says there's gotta be something to it.

A single, unfounded accusation almost derailed the last conservative, successful black man in line for a major role in government. His name was Clarence Thomas.

If one almost did the job last time - how effective would 3 or 4 be?

Where there smoke there is fire? Careful with that - or you will have Obama on the fast track to being impeached due to the scandals he and his administration have been party to.....

This is a country of innocent until proven guilty. Clinton had semen on a dress. Edwards had a love child....

There is no proof of anything against Cain - and a lot of reason to be suspicious of the accusations.

Political witch hunt.... the politics of personal destruction. Same old liberal playbook.....

[antikristuseke]

Same old partisan politics playbook more like, mud slinging in US politics is common for both parties, at least as far as I can tell.

Business as usual or SNAFU to be even more brief.

So expecting real data - aka facts - makes someone a loon. Accusation is enough for you then. Got it.

That is hilarious given what it relates to, did you just see the comparison with Beck and get offended?
In case you missed it the "real data" was meaningless information that has no bearing whatsoever on the claim that had been made

[Tchocky]

Whatever is happening here, and lets be clear we don't have all the facts - it is DEFINITELY SPECIFIC to the political orientation of the person concerned, and further illustrates the venality and downright grubby opportunism of whatever political philosophy he/she subscribes to.


It makes me sick.

[Bubblehead1980]

Here is most likely what happened with Cain and this skanky Bialek woman, who was possibly not bad looking 15 years ago but looks a bit run down, I've noticed most women don't age well lol.

Anyways, assuming Cain does actually know her, she got in touch with him wanting a job and given the type of woman she seems to do, did some flirting over dinner and drinks and Cain made an advance after dinner, drinks, and upgrading her to a suite.They either had a consensual encounter with her assuming she would in fact get a job and it did not materialize, she told a false version to a friend or two and her boyfriend at the time.Left disgruntled and still living a financially unstable life suing for a living, with Cain's rise to the top of the polls, she smelled blood and decided to go for it.

I personally could care less, so he tried to score some ass and most likely did, and she is angry because she got nothing out of it.Well that is what she gets for being a whore.

The others are all most likely the same or total bs.The woman who filed a complaint about the "my wife is your height" remark and gesture is a total idiot.Some women are just too sensitive.Esp in the 90's on the hill of the Anita Hill thing etc


A lot of this boils down to one thing....

Liberals do not want an intelligent, conservative, black businessman to get the nomination because they are scared of Herman Cain. Cain represents the best of America and how someone from his backround and esp being a black man born in the south in the 40's, living through the days of ACTUAL recism moved up on his own and refused to be a victim.

Like Cain has put it many times, he is no on the Democratic Plantation and it is driving many people crazy.They will do what they can to bring him down, just hope Americans are not stupid enough let something like bs "harassment" charges rob of us of such a great candidate.Then again, most of us did elect obama so would not shock me.

[Tchocky]

I personally could care less, so he tried to score some ass and most likely did, and she is angry because she got nothing out of it.Well that is what she gets for being a whore.

Law school, was it?

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

There is no proof of anything against Cain - and a lot of reason to be suspicious of the accusations

Except by his own admission there was (his words) "some sort of settlement or termination." Convenient how that evidence is glossed over and ignored in your world. People don't enter into "some sort of settlement or termination" unless there's something to settle or terminate over.

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Law school, was it?

So in one post he calls a woman skanky, a piece of "ass," a whore, says that women don't age well and are too sensitive.

Oh bubbles, I hope you're studying the sexual harassment cases very well. The way you talk, you'll most likely be at the center of one someday.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Like Cain has put it many times, he is no on the Democratic Plantation and it is driving many people crazy.They will do what they can to bring him down, just hope Americans are not stupid enough let something like bs "harassment" charges rob of us of such a great candidate.Then again, most of us did elect obama so would not shock me.

I have said this before, but I cannot understand how one can post everything that came before the paragraph that I quoted and then move on to claim intellecutal superiority. I just feel that it bears repeating. Carry on.

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Except by his own admission there was (his words) "some sort of settlement or termination." Convenient how that evidence is glossed over and ignored in your world. People don't enter into "some sort of settlement or termination" unless there's something to settle or terminate over.

Bill Clinton paid Paula Jones almost a million dollars and still you liberals defended him. Convenient how that evidence is glossed over and ignored in your world.

[Bilge_Rat]

The theory that the Democrats are behind this makes no sense. If they were behind this, they would wait until Cain was nominated and would divulge it next september, just in time to put the final nail in.

Using it now just discredits Cain and makes it more likely that Romney will be nominated, a candidate who has a much better chance of actually beating Obama.

[Dread Knot]

As much as I like his unconventional style, I think Cain is finished as a serious presidential candidate. At this point you have to assume that there are other women ready to come forward, but who have been told by someone inside either the Romney or Obama camps to hold off until the appropriate moment. Politics is war and Cain is a mortally wounded animal. However he's useful to Romney right now, as he sucks oxygen out of the room and prevents Paul or Perry from getting any press. Newt is a distraction, at best.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Dread Knot

As much as I like his unconventional style, I think Cain is finished as a serious presidential candidate. At this point you have to assume that there are other women ready to come forward, but who have been told by someone inside either the Romney or Obama camps to hold off until the appropriate moment. Politics is war and Cain is a mortally wounded animal. However he's useful to Romney right now, as he sucks oxygen out of the room and prevents Paul or Perry from getting any press. Newt is a distraction, at best.

I don't see Paul, Perry or Gingrich as viable at all. Each of them has their own bagage that hinders any widespread support, so it is dubious that any press from them would sway many people at this point. However, I will agree with your central argument in saying that Cain's [probable] demise in the race makes Romney the de facto Republican nominee.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by August

Bill Clinton paid Paula Jones almost a million dollars and still you liberals defended him. Convenient how that evidence is glossed over and ignored in your world.

I didn't ignore it, I didn't gloss over it, and I didn't defend it. I've made no mention of Clinton at all. What on earth are you even talking about? "You liberals"...like I'm the spokesperson for some collective hivemind.

If you want to make snippy comments to a liberal for defending Bill Clinton's sexual harassment suits, then you might want to direct them at a liberal who...um...you know, actually defended Bill Clinton's sexual harassment suits.