Sharon Bialek accuses Herman Cain of groping her

AVGWarhawk · 11-09-11, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Excellent rebuttal.

Show me the money.

Where is it found that sexual+predatory means underage. Or implies it.

Takeda Shingen · 11-09-11, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Show me the money.

Where is it found that sexual+predatory means underage. Or implies it.

Again, go ahead and do a Google search for 'sexual predator'. Then come back and tell me how you think our society uses this term.

AVGWarhawk · 11-09-11, 11:24 AM

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CLASSIFICATION OF OFFENDERS
A SEXUAL PREDATOR is defined as a person who has been convicted of, or pleaded guilty to, committing a sexually oriented offense and who is likely in the future to commit additional sexually oriented offenses. Offenders can be classified as sexual predators in one of the following ways:

1. The Offender is convicted of a sexually violent offense with a sexually violent predator specification, (or)
2. The sentencing court, after holding a sexual predator hearing pursuant to O.R.C. 2950.09, determines that the offender is a sexual predator.

http://publicsafety.ci.akron.oh.us/p.../offender.html

How society(general public) NCI/Criminal mind or media uses the term believe it implies underage.

AVGWarhawk · 11-09-11, 11:49 AM

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By legal definition, a sexual predator is a person who has been convicted of or pled guilty to committing a sexually oriented offense, and who is likely in the future to commit additional sexually oriented offenses.

http://www.enotes.com/sexual-predati...haracteristics

I have not found any article specifically on "sexual predator" indicating or implied underage. I think the stigmata is there because it is generated by the media in the form of news and TV programs.

I still stand by more original retort.

Takeda Shingen · 11-09-11, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

http://publicsafety.ci.akron.oh.us/p.../offender.html

How society(general public) NCI/Criminal mind or media uses the term believe it implies underage.

Exactly my point. The public at large regards the term as relating to sexual deviancy, specifically directed at the exploitation of minors. By labeling Clinton as a sexual predator, an effort is made to use this perception to cast him in a negative light. While there are many things that are wrong with Clinton and his term as president, pedophilia was not among them. This is the type of 'character assasination'--a term coined, with no small amount of irony, by those on the right and a tactic decried by numerous members of these forums; some in this very thread. Seems to me that it is a rather insincere form of argument.

AVGWarhawk · 11-09-11, 12:41 PM

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Exactly my point. The public at large regards the term as relating to sexual deviancy, specifically directed at the exploitation of minors. By labeling Clinton as a sexual predator, an effort is made to use this perception to cast him in a negative light. While there are many things that are wrong with Clinton and his term as president, pedophilia was not among them. This is the type of 'character assasination'--a term coined, with no small amount of irony, by those on the right and a tactic decried by numerous members of these forums; some in this very thread. Seems to me that it is a rather insincere form of argument.

I'm not sure if the public at large regard the term as relating to a minor but, we can say the news will drill a story involving sexual activity with minors into the ground. Look at Penn State. This story will be repeated and followed for weeks. A school teacher involved with a minor. All over the news. A possible serial rapist gets a spot today and is dismissed tomorrow. As far as Clinton and describing him as sexual predator and know his story we can say that most would not associate the story to sexual activity with minors. We can say he is a sexual predator. It is a character assassination. Nothing more. Politico should have some strong evidence on Cain (I don't believe they do). If not, Politico would have destroyed this man, campaign and life.

Takeda Shingen · 11-09-11, 01:00 PM

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I'm not sure if the public at large regard the term as relating to a minor but, we can say the news will drill a story involving sexual activity with minors into the ground. Look at Penn State. This story will be repeated and followed for weeks. A school teacher involved with a minor. All over the news. A possible serial rapist gets a spot today and is dismissed tomorrow. As far as Clinton and describing him as sexual predator and know his story we can say that most would not associate the story to sexual activity with minors. We can say he is a sexual predator. It is a character assassination. Nothing more. Politico should have some strong evidence on Cain (I don't believe they do). If not, Politico would have destroyed this man, campaign and life.

I think that I have adequately demonstrated that the association with minors is, in fact, the overall public perception. As for the rest of your post, we are in agreement. The sensationalism of the media will drive, and continue to drive, these stories into the collective conscience of America. Just what evidence there is against Cain we do not know, and I would like to think that his categorical denial is an indication that this is a smear attempt. However, strange things happen to people when they enter politics and he wouldn't be the first politician to tell an out-and-out lie. Time will tell in terms of the validity of the allegations, but I think that his run for President is over.

EDIT: 1480, that sort of language (Grand Wizard) is image building language in the very same vein as we were discussing. It is distasteful and shows clear bias on the part of Mr. Gregory. Meet the Press comes on at 10:30 here, and I used to watch it with Tim Russert for the first half hour before switching to The McLaughlin Group at 11:00. Now I watch This Week, as I find Gregory utterly distasteful in his bias.

AVGWarhawk · 11-09-11, 01:07 PM

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WASHINGTON (AP) — A woman who settled a sexual harassment complaint against GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain in 1999 complained three years later at her next job about unfair treatment, saying she should be allowed to work from home after a serious car accident and accusing a manager of circulating a sexually charged email, The Associated Press has learned.

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Kraushaar said Tuesday she did not remember details about the complaint and did not remember asking for a payment, a promotion or a Harvard fellowship. Bennett, her lawyer, declined to discuss the case with the AP, saying he considered it confidential. Kraushaar left her job at the immigration service after dropping the complaint in 2003, and she went to work at the Treasury Department.

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-a...080946066.html

Gee..she can't remember? Sexual predators and habitual filers of false claims. No one can remember a damn thing.