Who Started World War II?

[Fahnenbohn]

Originally Posted by Dowly

May I ask that this thread is not closed. Fahnenbohn has provided evidence as asked. There still might be some discussion left.

I agree, although I'd rather not call what he delivered "evidence", I don't see why this thread must be closed. You'll never know...

[Catfish]

I read he has been released, in 2011?

[Fahnenbohn]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

although I'd rather not call what he delivered "evidence"

All sources are provided. All is verifiable. You just have to open the original books (not those written by propagandists and academics who are copying on one another, but the real historical sources), and read.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

I would like to thank

[Fahnenbohn]

Originally Posted by Catfish

I read he has been released, in 2011?

Currently, he has left the french territory to be able to continue his researches.

[Fahnenbohn]

Originally Posted by HunterICX

Conclussion: Cutting sentences, conveniently ignoring evidence and facts to fit your view and claiming that there is some grand allied plot

Wonderful accusatory inversion ...

In Nuremberg, the German chiefs were presented as "plotters against peace". Hello Big Brother !

[HunterICX]

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

Ow look.....another holocaust denier.
Calling bluntly the survivors of the Oradour Massacre outright liars, he takes it up for the scum that is known as the Das Reich Division of the Waffen SS.

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

All sources are provided. All is verifiable. You just have to open the original books (not those written by propagandists and academics who are copying on one another, but the real historical sources), and read.

It's verifiable that it is nothing but revisionist garbage which ignores the facts, evidence and alters testimonies for their own convinience to make pethatic statements which just slaps the one who died horribly at the hands of a failed Austrian painter in the face.

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

Wonderful accusatory inversion ...

Funny, it's what sums up everything you said so far.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

So, World War II could have been avoided. If Poland would have not rejected all Hitler's negociation proposals, then war against Poland would never have taken place. But even after the German troops entered in Poland, peace was still possible, and the Britain and French politicians knew that : Hitler has always been ready for peaceful solutions.

Hitler wanted peace for Europe.

Obersalzberg Speech August 22, 1939

Poland will be depopulated and settled with Germans. My pact with the Poles was merely conceived of as a gaining of time.


— Adolf Hitler

http://teach.yauger.net/apworld/unit...ersalzberg.pdf

Special Prosecution Book-Poland

Nearly two years before the invasion of the Second Polish Republic, between 1937 and 1939, the Sonderfahndungsbuch Polen was being secretly prepared in Germany. It was compiled by the “Zentralstelle IIP Polen” (Central Unit IIP-Poland) unit of the Geheime Staatspolizei or Gestapo ("Secret State Police") with help from the German minority living in pre-war Poland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specia...on_Book-Poland

Operation Tannenberg

Operation Tannenberg (German: Unternehmen Tannenberg) was a codename for one of the extermination actions by Nazi Germany that was directed at the Polish nationals during the opening stages of World War II in Europe

The shootings were conducted with the use of a proscription lists (Sonderfahndungsbuch Polen), compiled by the Gestapo in the span of two years before the 1939 attack.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tannenberg

Intelligenzaktion

Intelligenzaktion , intelligentsia action, was a highly secretive genocidal action of Nazi Germany against Polish elites (primarily intelligentsia; teachers, doctors, priests, community leaders etc.) in the early stages of World War II.

Once more the Führer must point out that the Poles can only have one master, and that is the German; two masters cannot and must not exist side by side; therefore all representatives of the Polish intelligentsia should be eliminated [umbringen]. This sounds harsh, but such are the laws of life.

— Adolf Hitler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intell...on#cite_note-9

[Raptor1]

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

All sources are provided. All is verifiable. You just have to open the original books (not those written by propagandists and academics who are copying on one another, but the real historical sources), and read.

What are real historical sources? All testimony provided against your claims is made up by Allied propaganda or is meaningless, apparently, so we can only take sources which agree with your premise.

[Fahnenbohn]

Originally Posted by HunterICX

It's verifiable that it is nothing but revisionist garbage which ignores the facts, evidence and alters testimonies for their own convinience to make pethatic statements.

Another accusatory inversion. What you are saying has never been demonstrated. The only answer to their arguments is persecution. This is a complete admission !

The historical truth contradicts your paradigm. You are simply not able to go against that. For you, Hitler is the big bad wolf. OK, the discussion stops there with you.

[Cybermat47]

Fahnenbohn, to be frank, it seems to me that you believe anything said by Goebbels to be truth, and anything said by the Allies to be a lie. That's honestly a terrible attitude to have when you're looking for the truth. You shouldn't believe anything anyone says if you want to find the truth.

[Fahnenbohn]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

it seems to me that you believe anything said by Goebbels to be truth

???

[August]

Hitlers own words prove that he started the war and it definitively answers the premise of this thread. Must we continue with this?

[Fahnenbohn]

Originally Posted by u crank

Obersalzberg Speech August 22, 1939

Source : From Documents on British Foreign Policy, 1919–1939, ed. E.L. Woodward and Rohan Butler, 3rd series (London: HMSO, 1954), 7:258–60.