Taliban moving towards peace talks with US over war in Afghanistan

TarJak · 06-18-13, 04:41 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/19/wo...-war.html?_r=0

Will be intersting to see what this means in practical terms. But it may be a first small step.

Schroeder · 06-18-13, 04:44 PM

I don't think anything good will come from that. I'm convinced that in the end the Taliban will rise to power again once Nato is out of Afghanistan.
I've been wrong before but that is what I think will happen.

06-18-13, 04:47 PM

^
You're not alone with that opinion... definitely not.

fireftr18 · 06-18-13, 05:14 PM

Schroeder I hope and pray you are wrong, but it's predictable.

Tchocky · 06-18-13, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

I don't think anything good will come from that. I'm convinced that in the end the Taliban will raise to power again once Nato is out of Afghanistan.
I've been wrong before but that is what I think will happen.

Talkin' better than shootin'

It's been a long slow realisation that the Taliban aren't going to vanish off the face of the Earth, however much that appeals to me. Nobody likes it but it's better than what we've got right now.

AVGWarhawk · 06-19-13, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Talkin' better than shootin'

Words I don't think the Taliban utter.

06-19-13, 10:16 AM

Oh dear, the fallout begins.
The Afghan government has now suspended talks on security with America.
Apparently Karzai is a little upset with the US entering direct formal negotiations with the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan as it means they are recognising the Taliban as a government in exile.
Which puts him in a position rather akin to Vichy, Bohemia-moravia or Manchuko.

Oberon · 06-19-13, 11:36 AM

Bless, he's upset that he's being treated as the incompetent temporary US puppet that he is. He must know that his days are very much numbered. Fully expect to see either a Karzai in exile, or a Karzai from a lamp-post about two months after our forces leave.

Red October1984 · 06-18-13, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

I don't think anything good will come from that. I'm convinced that in the end the Taliban will raise to power again once Nato is out of Afghanistan.
I've been wrong before but that is what I think will happen.

+1

It'll be just like when we left Iraq.

All the collaborators that haven't already been killed will be killed and it'll be no different than before.

06-18-13, 05:52 PM

Another humiliating climbdown.

I wonder if the taliban will force many more climbdowns before the troops pull out next year.

Wolferz · 06-18-13, 05:59 PM

From what I read about this, only the Taliban and the new government of Afghanistan will be talking things over. The US and it's allies are not invited, except to get out of Dodge by the end of next year.

Probably another ploy by the Taliban to sneak back into power without risking any more of their resources. If they gain another foothold and shut down the poppy production again, we'll be right back over there doing this all over.

Armistead · 06-18-13, 06:04 PM

The Taliban is a major cultural force, we'll have to continue to deal with them. I don't care about them as a force, if the people don't like them, let them deal with them, it's when they protect and deal with terrorist. Regardless of what they do, I bet we'll remain in the area to some degree.
Regardless, it'll remain a corrupt nation.

06-18-13, 06:14 PM

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From what I read about this, only the Taliban and the new government of Afghanistan will be talking things over. The US and it's allies are not invited, except to get out of Dodge by the end of next year.

Is ambassador James Dobbins leading the Afghan or the Taliban delegation at the talks then ?

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Probably another ploy by the Taliban to sneak back into power without risking any more of their resources.

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Their increasing level of attacks over the past 18 months and stalling of the talks process until America dropped the precondition on Al-qaida seems to have escaped your notice.

Cybermat47 · 06-18-13, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

I don't think anything good will come from that. I'm convinced that in the end the Taliban will raise to power again once Nato is out of Afghanistan.
I've been wrong before but that is what I think will happen.

And Afghanistan is just better off without those butchers.

Skybird · 06-18-13, 05:16 PM

Was about time that they give peace to the World. The lambs will lie beside the Wolves , and everybody barbaric and brutal and blind will become a better human being all by itself. Its so easy to explain. Magic always is.

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Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	From what I read about this, only the Taliban and the new government of Afghanistan will be talking things over. The US and it's allies are not invited, except to get out of Dodge by the end of next year. Probably another ploy by the Taliban to sneak back into power without risking any more of their resources. If they gain another foothold and shut down the poppy production again, we'll be right back over there doing this all over. __________________ Tomorrow never comes

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Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	The Taliban is a major cultural force, we'll have to continue to deal with them. I don't care about them as a force, if the people don't like them, let them deal with them, it's when they protect and deal with terrorist. Regardless of what they do, I bet we'll remain in the area to some degree. Regardless, it'll remain a corrupt nation. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

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Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	^ You're not alone with that opinion... definitely not.

06-19-13, 10:16 AM	#7
Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Oh dear, the fallout begins. The Afghan government has now suspended talks on security with America. Apparently Karzai is a little upset with the US entering direct formal negotiations with the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan as it means they are recognising the Taliban as a government in exile. Which puts him in a position rather akin to Vichy, Bohemia-moravia or Manchuko.

06-19-13, 11:36 AM	#8
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Bless, he's upset that he's being treated as the incompetent temporary US puppet that he is. He must know that his days are very much numbered. Fully expect to see either a Karzai in exile, or a Karzai from a lamp-post about two months after our forces leave.

06-18-13, 05:52 PM	#10
Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Another humiliating climbdown. I wonder if the taliban will force many more climbdowns before the troops pull out next year.

06-18-13, 05:16 PM	#15
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,638 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Was about time that they give peace to the World. The lambs will lie beside the Wolves , and everybody barbaric and brutal and blind will become a better human being all by itself. Its so easy to explain. Magic always is. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.