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TarJak 06-18-13 04:41 PM

Taliban moving towards peace talks with US over war in Afghanistan
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/19/wo...-war.html?_r=0

Will be intersting to see what this means in practical terms. But it may be a first small step.

Schroeder 06-18-13 04:44 PM

I don't think anything good will come from that. I'm convinced that in the end the Taliban will rise to power again once Nato is out of Afghanistan.
I've been wrong before but that is what I think will happen.

Nippelspanner 06-18-13 04:47 PM

^
You're not alone with that opinion... definitely not.

Tchocky 06-18-13 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 2072536)
I don't think anything good will come from that. I'm convinced that in the end the Taliban will raise to power again once Nato is out of Afghanistan.
I've been wrong before but that is what I think will happen.

Talkin' better than shootin'

It's been a long slow realisation that the Taliban aren't going to vanish off the face of the Earth, however much that appeals to me. Nobody likes it but it's better than what we've got right now.

fireftr18 06-18-13 05:14 PM

Schroeder I hope and pray you are wrong, but it's predictable.

Skybird 06-18-13 05:16 PM

Was about time that they give peace to the World. The lambs will lie beside the Wolves , and everybody barbaric and brutal and blind will become a better human being all by itself. Its so easy to explain. Magic always is.

Red October1984 06-18-13 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 2072536)
I don't think anything good will come from that. I'm convinced that in the end the Taliban will raise to power again once Nato is out of Afghanistan.
I've been wrong before but that is what I think will happen.

+1

It'll be just like when we left Iraq.

All the collaborators that haven't already been killed will be killed and it'll be no different than before.

Cybermat47 06-18-13 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 2072536)
I don't think anything good will come from that. I'm convinced that in the end the Taliban will raise to power again once Nato is out of Afghanistan.
I've been wrong before but that is what I think will happen.

And Afghanistan is just better off without those butchers.

Tribesman 06-18-13 05:52 PM

Another humiliating climbdown.:down:
I wonder if the taliban will force many more climbdowns before the troops pull out next year.

Wolferz 06-18-13 05:59 PM

From what I read about this, only the Taliban and the new government of Afghanistan will be talking things over. The US and it's allies are not invited, except to get out of Dodge by the end of next year.

Probably another ploy by the Taliban to sneak back into power without risking any more of their resources. If they gain another foothold and shut down the poppy production again, we'll be right back over there doing this all over.

Armistead 06-18-13 06:04 PM

The Taliban is a major cultural force, we'll have to continue to deal with them. I don't care about them as a force, if the people don't like them, let them deal with them, it's when they protect and deal with terrorist. Regardless of what they do, I bet we'll remain in the area to some degree.
Regardless, it'll remain a corrupt nation.

Tribesman 06-18-13 06:14 PM

Quote:

From what I read about this, only the Taliban and the new government of Afghanistan will be talking things over. The US and it's allies are not invited, except to get out of Dodge by the end of next year.
Is ambassador James Dobbins leading the Afghan or the Taliban delegation at the talks then ?

Quote:

Probably another ploy by the Taliban to sneak back into power without risking any more of their resources.
???????
Their increasing level of attacks over the past 18 months and stalling of the talks process until America dropped the precondition on Al-qaida seems to have escaped your notice.

TarJak 06-18-13 07:58 PM

I doubt they are trying to sneak back into power. They will simply take power the way they did last time. By force and without care as to what the rest of the world thinks.

Whether the talks are a ruse or otherwise is yet to be seen. Will the promise to give up ties to international terrorist organisations and secretly fund/support them, or will they simply talk until they are in a position to wrest power back?

All I can say is that I'm glad we (Australia) will be out of there soon. I don't believe we should have gotten involved there at all and will be glad when we are out.

mookiemookie 06-18-13 10:16 PM

12 years later and we're back to exactly where we started.

GO AMERICA! WOO!

Red October1984 06-18-13 10:59 PM

Taliban?!

Peace?!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...cute.....


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