Batman movie shooting - Page 4

Stealhead · 07-22-12, 03:25 PM

Well Holmes falls under 1,2,and 12. I am surprised that there is not a specific code for the murder of a child.In Florida you can get death for severe sexual assault of a person under the age of 13 even if the victim does not die.

Sailor Steve · 07-22-12, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Just a nit to pick, but it was an AR-15 There is no such thing as an AR-15 Assault Rifle. The AR-15 only looks like an assault rifle.

Terminology changes with attitudes and time. Ninety-five years ago my bolt-action 03 Springfield was not only an assault rifle, it was the assault rifle of choice for the U.S. Army.

eddie · 07-22-12, 03:42 PM

Has anybody heard how he was actually caught? Was he running towards his car to get away? I haven't heard or read anything on that. I knew he gave up without a struggle, but nothing more then that so far.

RickC Sniper · 07-22-12, 03:51 PM

I believe he was just standing outside that exit by his car and surrendered when approached by officers. There was no struggle or incident.

Stealhead · 07-22-12, 06:24 PM

According to a few sources he was outside and some law enforcement saw him and at first thought he was another SWAT but something about his kit was off and they stopped him.

Also he tried to join a gun range but the owner who Holmes had contacted by e-mail disliked how his voice mail sounded he advised his staff that if Holmes ever showed up at the range that he was to speak with Holmes immediately he felt something was off with Holmes based on the nature of his voice mail.

The 100 round magazine jammed on Holmes and he did not know how to un jam the weapon which very likely saved some lives good thing he did not buy 30 round magazines as they are highly reliable.

It sounds to as though Holmes planned to actually escape by blending in with the cops.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...N2W_story.html

Read the first two pages it will stop you at the 4th page unless you create an account which is free but you can read it once without having to do so.

Jimbuna · 07-22-12, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RickC Sniper

lethal injection

Rgr that, cheers.

Jimbuna · 07-22-12, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

Has anybody heard how he was actually caught? Was he running towards his car to get away? I haven't heard or read anything on that. I knew he gave up without a struggle, but nothing more then that so far.

According to BBC and Sky News he was squatting next to his vehicle and offered no resistance to the arresting officers.

Ducimus · 07-23-12, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sidslotm

I wonder, is it not time for a minimal gun law in the USA, I mean, an assualt rifle. How can a weapon like this ever be sold across the counter and justified in public hands. It has only one purpose, military.

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Originally Posted by Morts

I honestly dont see a problem with it anymore, i used to be semi anti-gun, and i believe i've even argued against weapons like these on here.
If a criminal wants an AR-15, he is going to get one, simple as that.
All of our gun control laws here in Denmark havent prevented the criminals from shooting eachother up with just about every type of weapon out there, at some point or another.

While I agree that (generally speaking) assault rifles are military in application, Gun control really isn't an answer. If someone has malice intent, they will get a gun one way or another. All gun control really does, is make it harder for law abiding people to protect themselves. Anyone with malice thought isn't exactly law abiding, they'll get their firearm in the end.

One thought is, if there were more people with concealed carry permits, random shooters like this guy (and the many others like him over the years) wouldn't get very far.

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Originally Posted by Skybird

I doubt any sharpening of gun laws in the US will happen. For Americans, it seems to be not so much a legal issue, but one of culture and attitude basing on the way the history of their country was born and formed, .

Skybirds accurate here i think. The best gun control advocates could hope for is another assault rifle ban, but that's not exactly going to stop bad people. They'll use another gun, or they'll get their assault rifle by means other then walking into a gun store. If guns were to really be snuffed out here in America, gun control would have had to been exercised when we were still a British colony. For us, intergration of firearms into our culture started then, and continues to this day with the added iconic imagery from minutemen, to mountain men, to cowboys and the wild west, the list goes on. We are unique among nations in this regard i think.

07-23-12, 08:59 AM

WTF???????

troopie · 07-23-12, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

played too many ( I used that as an example cause the airport scene surprised even me)

I've never seen this before. It really saddens me. REALLY.

Video game? How is simulated public massacre able to be passed off as a video game? It looks like a common console game; xbox etc.

We're not talking an obscure niche here, this is mainstream stuff your kids have probibly played.

While I don't think this'll make your little johny reach for an asualt rifle I don't think there is any denying it can influence feeble/unstable minds?

Ducimus · 07-23-12, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by troopie

I've never seen this before. It really saddens me. REALLY.

Personally im just surprised they'd risk a possible public backlash on that part. of course this games been out for awhile. So any stink that was to be raised probably already was. Or, some future news article will do some expose on violence in video games (again), and cite it as an example.

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Video game? How is simulated public massacre able to be passed off as a video game? It looks like a common console game; xbox etc.

The call of duty series is the very definition of generic First Person shooter now.

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We're not talking an obscure niche here, this is mainstream stuff your kids have probibly played.

If kids have played it, they shouldn't have. Games aren't just made for kids anymore, but adults too. COD:MW2 has an ESRB rating of M, for Mature.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of...dern_Warfare_2
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp

So its basically synonymous with a rated R movie. So letting your kid play a rated M video game, is like letting them watch a rated R movie. The funny thing is, many parents are more informed about movies then they are games, so they don't censor their kids games like their kids movies.

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While I don't think this'll make your little johny reach for an asualt rifle I don't think there is any denying it can influence feeble/unstable minds?

Mental stabilty isn't age specific, so yeah i guess so.

AVGWarhawk · 07-23-12, 11:50 AM

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While I don't think this'll make your little johny reach for an asualt rifle

Assault rifles are available if Johnny wants one.

Sailor Steve · 07-23-12, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

If guns were to really be snuffed out here in America, gun control would have had to been exercised when we were still a British colony.

It was exercised then, or at least attempted. That's what started the shooting war in the first place.

Ducimus · 07-23-12, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

It was exercised then, or at least attempted. That's what started the shooting war in the first place.

So what your saying is, gun control NEVER had a chance.

eddie · 07-23-12, 03:12 PM

Have you seen Holmes in court? Looks wasted,lol I think its dawning on him as to how much trouble he is in,lol The video of him in court is in the middle of this page, red hair and all!!

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...ourtroom?lite/

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eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Have you seen Holmes in court? Looks wasted,lol I think its dawning on him as to how much trouble he is in,lol The video of him in court is in the middle of this page, red hair and all!! http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...ourtroom?lite/ __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

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Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Well Holmes falls under 1,2,and 12. I am surprised that there is not a specific code for the murder of a child.In Florida you can get death for severe sexual assault of a person under the age of 13 even if the victim does not die.

07-22-12, 06:24 PM	#50
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	According to a few sources he was outside and some law enforcement saw him and at first thought he was another SWAT but something about his kit was off and they stopped him. Also he tried to join a gun range but the owner who Holmes had contacted by e-mail disliked how his voice mail sounded he advised his staff that if Holmes ever showed up at the range that he was to speak with Holmes immediately he felt something was off with Holmes based on the nature of his voice mail. The 100 round magazine jammed on Holmes and he did not know how to un jam the weapon which very likely saved some lives good thing he did not buy 30 round magazines as they are highly reliable. It sounds to as though Holmes planned to actually escape by blending in with the cops. http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...N2W_story.html Read the first two pages it will stop you at the 4th page unless you create an account which is free but you can read it once without having to do so.

07-23-12, 08:59 AM	#54
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