Looks like Obama will have his own little private Army now.

[August]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

(i.e., the Tea Parties- which amount to little more than a loud, large group of nuts who prance around with American flags, anti-government signs, and announce to the world their tacky patriotic-sounding group title), let alone the people who have any sympathy or concurrency with these types. Disliking your fellow citizens is a lot different (not to mention a smaller issue) than disliking your government.

Yeah those "nuts", as you call them, how DARE they oppose the Democrats wild spending spree.

Oh and major burn mentioning their "tacky patriotic-sounding group title"
You are so good at parroting the Democratic party line aren'tcha?

[August]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

I HAVE A BETTER IDEA

Why dont we take care of it BEFORE they kill 6 million people?

there is a real novel idea!

That picture you posted is folly in its most pure form... it might as well read...

"Lets clear something up right now. All Cancer is bad in some way or another regardless of what kind of cancer it is, but until it causes you to lose 90 lbs and you start puking up blood we will hold off on diagnosing it as malignant."

the problem with having allegiance to a leader so much so that you will follow him to hell...

... is that may be the very place he leads you to.

Well said GR.

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

I HAVE A BETTER IDEA

Why dont we take care of it BEFORE they kill 6 million people?

there is a real novel idea!

That picture you posted is folly in its most pure form... it might as well read...

"Lets clear something up right now. All Cancer is bad in some way or another regardless of what kind of cancer it is, but until it causes you to lose 90 lbs and you start puking up blood we will hold off on diagnosing it as malignant."

the problem with having allegiance to a leader so much so that you will follow him to hell...

... is that may be the very place he leads you to.

Your post is based around your first two statements. So, simply asking, what, exactly, is there in existence to evidence that they (the government) will kill 6,000,000 people in a holocaustesque purge- and that this belief is something more than just a crackpot idea created by a bunch of paranoid morons who aren't fans of dissenting political opinions from their own? Because I'm hearing this kind of stuff a lot more nowadays from quite a few people on the Internet. It is, to say the least, disturbing. President Bush didn't kill 6,000,000 of his own citizens, President Obama isn't going to either.

[August]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

It is, to say the least, disturbing. President Bush didn't kill 6,000,000 of his own citizens, President Obama isn't going to either.

That's funny, you've never been disturbed by such comparisons before.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

what, exactly, is there in existence to evidence that they (the government) will kill 6,000,000 people

The health care bill would be a good starting point I suppose.



Fact of the matter is that the President of the United States of America already has the United States Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air force, Coast guard and the Secret Service... two questions a neutral and intelligent individual would ask are:

1. Why the need for this private force?

2. Why the need to camouflage it into a health care reform bill?

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by August

That's funny, you've never been disturbed by such comparisons before.

Oh really? Where have I seriously compared either one to Hitler before?

[August]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Oh really? Where have I seriously compared either one to Hitler before?

I realize that English is a second language for you but that's not what I said.

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

The health care bill would be a good starting point I suppose.

You can show it will kill 6,000,000 when it's put into effect later this year?

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Fact of the matter is that the President of the United States of America already has the United States Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air force and Coast guard... two questions a neutral and intelligent individual would ask are:

1. Why the need for this private force?

2. Why the need to camouflage it into a health care reform bill?

Maybe you should reread what exactly the USPHSCC is and how President Obama is not their boss...

http://www.usphs.gov/aboutus/questions.aspx#whatis

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Honestly, I don't see where the Gestapo/holocaust parts are coming into place on this... perhaps you might point them out. Specifically quoted, I mean.

[razark]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

The health care bill would be a good starting point I suppose.



Fact of the matter is that the President of the United States of America already has the United States Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air force and Coast guard... two questions a neutral and intelligent individual would ask are:

1. Why the need for this private force?

2. Why the need to camouflage it into a health care reform bill?

This force mentioned in the bill is merely an extension of one of the already existing uniformed services. See here.

It's nothing new, it's been around quite a while, and it's not a private army.

As for why this instead of the army/navy/etc, this is a force of medical folks. They do things the army et al don't. You wouldn't send a group of doctors to fight a war. Why send a platoon of soldiers to provide medical care?

As for it being in the health care reform bill? Because it's health care related.


Of course, this could all be some cover story for the fact that Obama is actually sending out an elite force to hunt down everyone that doesn't agree with him, round them up into camps, give them lobotomies, and then release them into the wilds of Canada. That sounds plausible.

By the way, there is also another branch of the uniformed services. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Commissioned Corps, which is in fact, Obama's private force for controlling the weather.

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by August

I realize that English is a second language for you but that's not what I said.

You said that I wasn't disturbed by such comparisons. So I ask again, where have I ever said that he was Hitler or agreed that he was Hitler with somebody else?

[NeonSamurai]

Do you guys ever take a step back and try to take a more unbiased look at things? I always find the interactions between the two political affiliations rather ironic, as they are near the same and the roles invert as one faction's leader comes to power. Yet neither group ever seems to see it, so wrapped up in their own groups ideology and rhetoric.

When Bush was in power the republican people were standing in defense of him, in general agreement with everything he did. The democrats were frothing at the mouth, calling him the next Hitler, and lots of other stuff, blaming him for everything wrong in the US, claiming that he did not represent 'the people' (love how both sides simultaneously claim to represent "the people" as a whole), was wasting trillions of tax dollars, was going to destroy democracy and the constitution, etc etc etc, plus all the usual the world is going to end stuff.

When Obama came in to power, both groups did a near perfect about face. Now you had democrats defending Obama, and republicans frothing at the mouth, saying pretty much the same stuff the democrats had said about Bush (oh sure there are a few differences over some 'hot button' issues, but the behavior and attitude is about the same).

Without meaning to be insulting to anyone, I am reminded of puppets dancing to the same tune, their limbs moving to the jerking of the strings.

[razark]

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

Do you guys ever take a step back and try to take a more unbiased look at things? I always find the interactions between the two political affiliations rather ironic, as they are near the same and the roles invert as one faction's leader comes to power. Yet neither group ever seems to see it, so wrapped up in their own groups ideology and rhetoric.

Yeah, our two party system does have some drawbacks. Especially for those who don't fit into either of the two major parties.

[GoldenRivet]

+1 @ neonsamurai

Though i initially held George W. Bush in high esteem and actually met him in a relaxed social environment (we were virtually 2 of the only 4 or 5 people in the room) he lost a lot of respect from me mostly during his second term.

I have since adopted the idea of viewing all politicians with a skeptical eye.

I am pro small government - pro states rights.

so needless to say i am rather unhappy about the Federal grab for power we have seen here in the past several years specifically.

Im sure the Schutzstaffel was approached - at least initially - with similar remarks of sarcasm too.

So the SS were some sort of medical emergency team then?
The whole reason why the OPs approach and all the gestapo/SS comparisons are such a joke and deserve little more than sarcasm is because they are so obviously and demonstrably crazy to the extent that they are entirely detatched from reality.
The reason for the sarcasm is simply because the claims being made by the conspiracy nuts are so ludicrous.

1. Why the need for this private force?

What private force?

2. Why the need to camouflage it into a health care reform bill?

What camouflage?
Can you think of a better bill to put reform of a medical health care organisation into?
The only camouflage being used is by those who attempt to pretend a disaster relief team is some sort of secret nazi army

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by razark

Yeah, our two party system does have some drawbacks. Especially for those who don't fit into either of the two major parties.

That would be nearly 100% of the population.

Oh and to the previous posts.. good job on the "tea party nut jobs" thing keep those talking points comming it up someday some folks might believe it. Oh wait some already do.