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This angers me that no one caught this before the bill was passed and if they did, they did not raise hell about it.Can anyone say Gestapo? The US is in trouble.
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I guess you're not talking about all the new IRS jobs
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OMG they are going to have more emergency workers in reserve above the current limit of 2,800 who can be called out by the surgeon general for national emergencies or assistance with public health..its the gestapo I tell ya
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Hey it all makes the job numbers look good and thats what counts right?
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In the minds of the paranoid...
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I take it Bubble and SteamWake rose the same alarm when the Patriot Act was pass/extended...right, RIGHT??? *PEERS MENACINGLY*
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What's your point then? Unless they protested the Patriot act they have no right to complain about this now?
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The PA is frankly not that big a deal. Every single negative issue with the PA combined doesn't equal a typical DAY of US civil rights violations during the WW2, lol. I think the health care law is a bigger attack on civil rights than the PA by a huge margin (the State can mandate that you purchase a particular product). |
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I used to think that Ron Paul had his stuff together. After reading this and his comments about armed IRS bureaucrats invading your home, I am glad I never voted for him.
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So President Obama now has a private army of dietitians? To arms! To arms! And if Ron had done just a little bit of research, he might have known that the Commission Corps has been in existence for over 200 years and that it actually does some good stuff.
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Aside from that, as "Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States" according to the Constitution, he already has an army.
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I have never really cared for the Patriot Act.I do believe it has helped fight terrorism, we have not been attacked since 9/11.However, it definitely should be done away with due to it's attacks on personal liberties.
This "Ready Reserve" he speaks of is much more than extra emergency workers than can be called out in times of emergency Tribesman.Again, watch this clip... I remember seeing this on tv when he first said it and bothered me then.Obama is calling for much more than extra doctors, nurses to be called up, he wants them to be as well trained as the military in order to achieve our national security objectives, he says so.That is what the military is for, not a special army.National Security objectives achieved inside the US are handled by DHS, FBI and state/local police or national guards as the descretion of the state's governor, not specialized force who answer directly Obama.Doctor's and Nurses do not need military training when dealing with US civillians.When a disaster occurs we have as said, local/state law enforcement, national guard and if needed, will request FEMA to help. I live in Florida and in 2004 Hurricane Ivan turned where I live into a third world country for a few days.I evacuated but returned two days after and there was no power, running water, roads damaged, 7pm-7am curfew, miserable heat and all but we had local/state police, national guard, Red Cross to help people and did just fine. Obama now has what can be legitimately argued to be a political police force in it's infancy.I will bet if he is in office long enough and the health care bill is not repealed, we will see these people "called up" and used to help enforce the mandates, not the IRS.I am sure the IRS will play a role but bet these people will be involved.Now I am sure tribesman will try and say I am a conspiracy nut etc but really no one can justify the need for this private army or obama's own words in that clip.The dirtbag was honest and has his little force now. People seem to think the US is somehow immune from having a real, oppressive dictatorship and we have kind of been so in the past because most of our leaders have had respect for the constitution and rights of the individual and those who have not did not push the public too much because they had a basic love of this country.We are at risk now because we have never had someone with this dangerous ideology and a disdain for this country running the show.Of course he is doing this slowly with a smile under the guise of equality for everyone and making us a utopia because a more heavy handed approach would not really work.Luckily most people have been awaken and thus why his pole numbers continue to drop.The fix is not quite in yet so perhaps the elections in November and the 2012 election will save us from this despot in the making. Remember.... Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same-Ronald Reagan One of Goldwater's best because it really applies to whats going on now. Those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth. And let me remind you, they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyrannies. Absolute power does corrupt, and those who seek it must be suspect and must be opposed. Their mistaken course stems from false notions of equality, ladies and gentlemen. Equality, rightly understood, as our founding fathers understood it, leads to liberty and to the emancipation of creative differences. Wrongly understood, as it has been so tragically in our time, it leads first to conformity and then to despotism.-Barry Goldwater |
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So it's the forming of a govt funded militia?! I don't get it what for??!
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