QUESTION FOR LAWYERS : can we take any legal actions against UBI ?? - Page 4

Rockin Robbins · 03-16-10, 07:45 PM

Thank you privateer. No it was not directed at you only or even primarily you.

Nordmann · 03-16-10, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

I support the DEV's!
Not the Tie wearing, Money snaching SOB's!
Thier time WILL come.
Count on that.

They are one and the same I'm afraid, even one of the devs on here has said as much. There are no suits screwing over the dev team, they are same same damned thing!

03-16-10, 07:55 PM

Afraid not Mate!
Dan and the rest of the Dev's don't make the big picture!
I met Dan Face to Face!
I know a few things many don't!
So do not EVER put Dan and the rest of the Dev's in the Suit position!

You'd be stunned at what those guys went through just to give you
what you have so far!

I'll stand with them any day of the week and take a sniper position!

Nafod81 · 03-17-10, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Piddyx

You can sue them in Louisiana. The laws are different there because they are derived from civil law instead of common law.

Civil Law? It's the Napoleanoic code Louisiana's state law system is based on.

Exakt · 03-17-10, 05:16 PM

It is based on the French Civil Code, or as some calls it, Common Law.

I do know that in Quebec (Canada), you can sue for a defective product under the Consumer`s Protection Act. If any actions are to be taken, we have to coordinate our efforts. I will try to get some more info on my side, but IIRC, it has been done before (here in Quebec) for another program.

NefariousKoel · 03-17-10, 06:07 PM

The 2 class actions suits against EA about spore won and the DRM was removed. However, the point of contention was that EA didn't properly specify what was required by the DRM.

So, evidentally, a class action lawsuit can make a company remove it's DRM. The rest of the stuff about unfinished product has never happened and is pretty frivolous.

The best thing to do is not purchase these games in the hopes that the suits will take the hint. Though they seem pretty thick-headed at times and prone to placing blame elsewhere in a fit of denial. Possibly even going so far as to like about repeated hacker DOS attacks.

Immacolata · 03-18-10, 01:02 AM

I just knew it would be a bilge rat with a suggestion like that. Lawyers! Call the fire brigade!

No, you can't use lawyers for anything than stealing your money and your time in this matter.

Do as nef suggests. White & Sea - if Ubi allows the patches to hit and the game is fixed: go buy it. I know I am! I cant wait to see all that gorgeous 3d-water.

03-18-10, 05:48 AM

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Until Ubi relents:

Refuse to buy SH5
Refuse to play SH5
Refuse to mod SH5
Refuse to produce tutorials for SH5
Refuse to make video of SH5

It only encourages the dinosaur.

Well said Rocking Robbins....well said indeed.....if only more people thought like this...

Dowly · 03-18-10, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by privateer

So do not EVER put Dan and the rest of the Dev's in the Suit position!

Actually it was Dan who said himself that the suits and the devs shouldn't be separated, they're all in this together.

jwilliams · 03-18-10, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Actually it was Dan who said himself that the suits and the devs shouldn't be separated, they're all in this together.

I think he sorta had too. He's working for the company. You cant say your personal feelings (on a public forum) when your representing your employer..... Conflict of intrests

Dowly · 03-18-10, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jwilliams

I think he sorta had too. He's working for the company. You cant say your personal feelings (on a public forum) when your representing your employer..... Conflict of intrests

He could've not mentioned it at all.

jwilliams · 03-18-10, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

He could've not mentioned it at all.

True, he could have said nothing but he was asked. And i guess he gave a diplomatic answer on it.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...1&postcount=20

from this thread :-

What does elenaiba say...

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=163099

Dowly · 03-18-10, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jwilliams

True, he could have said nothing but he was asked. And i guess he gave a diplomatic answer on it.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...1&postcount=20

I'm pretty sure he wasn't asked about the suits vs. devs stuff, just about what he thinks of the feedback.

Anywho, here's the quite from Dan I mean:

Quote:

1) Ubisoft is a company, of which Ubisoft Romania is a part. Please stop separating the two. Not everything that is good is our merit, not everything that is bad is "the suits" fault. I, of all people, have my parts in the failures of SH5. The people "high up" could have simply decided not to do another SH, just as you guys can choose not to buy.

jwilliams · 03-18-10, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

I'm pretty sure he wasn't asked about the suits vs. devs stuff, just about what he thinks of the feedback.

Anywho, here's the quite from Dan I mean:

I think it was in referance to this post :-

Quote:

Dan, while you are here, maybe you can tell us only if you are at liberty to do so: who's responsible for game content? the development house or the publishing house?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...5&postcount=35

From this thread, which was the thread dan first answered in (that night/day, (damn time zones)) before the statment he gave :-
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=163013

Armistead · 03-18-10, 09:44 AM

These threads always kill me....Like those among us are going to pay lawyers hundreds of thousands of dollars to sue...OK, I'm in, where do I send my dollar to the cause...

03-16-10, 07:45 PM	#46
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Exakt Helmsman Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ville de Quebec (not the HMCS) Posts: 106 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	It is based on the French Civil Code, or as some calls it, Common Law. I do know that in Quebec (Canada), you can sue for a defective product under the Consumer`s Protection Act. If any actions are to be taken, we have to coordinate our efforts. I will try to get some more info on my side, but IIRC, it has been done before (here in Quebec) for another program. __________________ U-46 Leutnant z. S. Jakob Bock U-47 ObLt z. S. Jaana Galland ObLt z. S. Ernst Wagner (BdU)

03-17-10, 06:07 PM	#51
NefariousKoel Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: No-good Missouri scum Posts: 1,223 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	The 2 class actions suits against EA about spore won and the DRM was removed. However, the point of contention was that EA didn't properly specify what was required by the DRM. So, evidentally, a class action lawsuit can make a company remove it's DRM. The rest of the stuff about unfinished product has never happened and is pretty frivolous. The best thing to do is not purchase these games in the hopes that the suits will take the hint. Though they seem pretty thick-headed at times and prone to placing blame elsewhere in a fit of denial. Possibly even going so far as to like about repeated hacker DOS attacks. __________________ "When Gary told me he had found Jesus, I thought, Yahoo! We're rich! But it turned out to be something different." - Jack Handey

03-18-10, 01:02 AM	#52
Immacolata Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 798 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I just knew it would be a bilge rat with a suggestion like that. Lawyers! Call the fire brigade! No, you can't use lawyers for anything than stealing your money and your time in this matter.Do as nef suggests. White & Sea - if Ubi allows the patches to hit and the game is fixed: go buy it. I know I am! I cant wait to see all that gorgeous 3d-water. __________________ "The power of the executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious, and the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist." - W. Churchill

03-16-10, 07:55 PM	#48
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Afraid not Mate! Dan and the rest of the Dev's don't make the big picture! I met Dan Face to Face! I know a few things many don't! So do not EVER put Dan and the rest of the Dev's in the Suit position! You'd be stunned at what those guys went through just to give you what you have so far! I'll stand with them any day of the week and take a sniper position!

03-18-10, 09:44 AM	#60
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	These threads always kill me....Like those among us are going to pay lawyers hundreds of thousands of dollars to sue...OK, I'm in, where do I send my dollar to the cause...