Morse Code. - Page 4

03-10-09, 04:30 AM

Yes, I do my breaks too, but I noticed that first 2 minutes I'm doing fine with now 6 charachters. After this time I'm begining to loose focus and usually hit stop and try again later..

Puster Bill · 03-10-09, 07:32 AM

If you are getting 2 minutes of good solid copy with 6 characters, then it's probably time to move on to learning more characters.

Just out of curiosity, does Lithuanian have "extended" characters beyond the normal Roman alphabet? I learned the extra 4 characters needed for Russian Cyrillic, and promptly forgot them because I never used them after Morse school.

03-10-09, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puster Bill

If you are getting 2 minutes of good solid copy with 6 characters, then it's probably time to move on to learning more characters.

Just out of curiosity, does Lithuanian have "extended" characters beyond the normal Roman alphabet? I learned the extra 4 characters needed for Russian Cyrillic, and promptly forgot them because I never used them after Morse school.

Nah, I'm pushing myself to complete whole 5 min test with no less than 95% accuracy. Since I believe it will be easier in the future to make less mistakes with more characters later. When time is not a pressure I'm taking time enyoing the lessons my way u know

Yes we have specific characters in our language like: ą č ę ė į š ų ū ž

Canovaro · 03-10-09, 04:03 PM

As far as I can tell the message coming in in SH3 sounds like:

...
-.-.
..---
---..
-..-
-..-.
-----
....-
-..-.

Which means:
SC28/04/

A mysterious message...

Canovaro · 03-10-09, 04:09 PM

No wait!!

Studying the message formats of the Kriegsmarine, this piece of code gives the location and time of the message!

It was sent on April 28!

This is an original message:

Puster Bill · 03-11-09, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canovaro

No wait!!

Studying the message formats of the Kriegsmarine, this piece of code gives the location and time of the message!

It was sent on April 28!

This is an original message:

Bingo.

What that is is a preamble for the actual message.

06-10-09, 11:56 AM

C | V VIII VI | 12 18 22 | AY BM CP DS EQ FV GU HJ IW LR

Puster Bill 1955/10 8 21

RABS SKQU PZFO SGTV YUIL TNAO QBZL MQTK RHIB CQKA
WLUC MHAD XVVK XXUY EGYO PNZF BOSN YUXR RECP RABS
SKQU

DaveU186 · 06-11-09, 04:44 AM

I'm really only starting to look into enigma, but given all the possible setups, how was it possible for both parties to know the 'shared key' at any given time? Was it already layed out in some sort of handbook that guaranteed both sender and receiver would be the same on a given date, or was the key somehow transmitted with the message?

Leandros · 06-12-09, 04:13 AM

This is a little beside the subject here but when I went through morse code training we had a former WW2 navigator/radio operator as an instructor. During endless hours of listening and transmitting on the waves he had developed a special sense for the rhytm of the various morse letters. Instead of perceiving these as dots and lines each letter had taken on its own expression. For example: A was tit-a, B was be-bib-bib-bib, C was Ce-ti-ce-tit......and so on. As you see each letter then contained the actual letter in this constellation. Further it was very easy for us newcomers to grab these dot/line constellations - and remember them. Actually, we didn't remember at all - it just sneaked in without any real plugging. The real beauty of this system was that the rhytm of the various letters transformed directly to the morsing finger. Transmitting was actually easier to learn than receiving. In this way we, in general, needed only 12 hours of instruction to be able to transmit/receive 120 signs per minute. Which was the aim.

03-10-09, 07:32 AM	#47
Puster Bill Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2006 Location: BA8758, or FN33eh for my fellow hams. Posts: 833 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If you are getting 2 minutes of good solid copy with 6 characters, then it's probably time to move on to learning more characters. Just out of curiosity, does Lithuanian have "extended" characters beyond the normal Roman alphabet? I learned the extra 4 characters needed for Russian Cyrillic, and promptly forgot them because I never used them after Morse school. __________________ The U-Boat Commander of Love

06-10-09, 11:56 AM	#52
Contact Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	C \| V VIII VI \| 12 18 22 \| AY BM CP DS EQ FV GU HJ IW LR Puster Bill 1955/10 8 21 RABS SKQU PZFO SGTV YUIL TNAO QBZL MQTK RHIB CQKA WLUC MHAD XVVK XXUY EGYO PNZF BOSN YUXR RECP RABS SKQU Last edited by Contact; 06-10-09 at 01:01 PM.

06-12-09, 04:13 AM	#54
Leandros Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Stockholm Posts: 676 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	This is a little beside the subject here but when I went through morse code training we had a former WW2 navigator/radio operator as an instructor. During endless hours of listening and transmitting on the waves he had developed a special sense for the rhytm of the various morse letters. Instead of perceiving these as dots and lines each letter had taken on its own expression. For example: A was tit-a, B was be-bib-bib-bib, C was Ce-ti-ce-tit......and so on. As you see each letter then contained the actual letter in this constellation. Further it was very easy for us newcomers to grab these dot/line constellations - and remember them. Actually, we didn't remember at all - it just sneaked in without any real plugging. The real beauty of this system was that the rhytm of the various letters transformed directly to the morsing finger. Transmitting was actually easier to learn than receiving. In this way we, in general, needed only 12 hours of instruction to be able to transmit/receive 120 signs per minute. Which was the aim. Last edited by Leandros; 06-12-09 at 07:52 AM.

03-10-09, 04:30 AM	#46
Contact Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Yes, I do my breaks too, but I noticed that first 2 minutes I'm doing fine with now 6 charachters. After this time I'm begining to loose focus and usually hit stop and try again later..

03-10-09, 04:03 PM	#49
Canovaro Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,062 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	As far as I can tell the message coming in in SH3 sounds like: ... -.-. ..--- ---.. -..- -..-. ----- ....- -..-. Which means: SC28/04/ A mysterious message...

03-10-09, 04:09 PM	#50
Canovaro Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,062 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	No wait!! Studying the message formats of the Kriegsmarine, this piece of code gives the location and time of the message! It was sent on April 28! This is an original message:

06-11-09, 04:44 AM	#53
DaveU186 Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 112 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I'm really only starting to look into enigma, but given all the possible setups, how was it possible for both parties to know the 'shared key' at any given time? Was it already layed out in some sort of handbook that guaranteed both sender and receiver would be the same on a given date, or was the key somehow transmitted with the message?