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Ktl_KUrtz 03-01-09 04:26 PM

Morse Code.
 
Want to communicate as the U-Bootwaffe did?
Practice your Morse code (U-Boot related only please).
Check out this link:
http://www.bts-mods.com/forums/index.php?board=1.0
KUrtz

Ktl_KUrtz 03-02-09 11:47 AM

BdU to all U-Boats.
-.-. --- -- . --- -. --. ..- -.-- ... -.. .-. --- .--. -... -.-- - --- -...- ... .-.-.- -.-. --- -- .- -. -.. ... .- -.-- .... .. --.
.. ...- . -.-- ..- -... .- - -. ..- -- -... .-. .. -. -- --- .-. ... . -.- ..- .-. - --..

Link: http://www.learnmorsecode.com/

KUrtz

Puster Bill 03-02-09 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ktl_KUrtz
Want to communicate as the U-Bootwaffe did?
Practice your Morse code (U-Boot related only please).
Check out this link:
http://www.bts-mods.com/forums/index.php?board=1.0
KUrtz

They didn't communicate that way, they communicated this way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxISYBvCbkc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEXR-OEuBdk

Contact 03-02-09 02:50 PM

Morse code lessons combined with Enigma simulator would be a hardcore experience http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/enigmasim.htm :yeah:

It's a shame you can't use it in SH3 though :down:

Kriegsmarine B | II VI VIII | 25 24 05 | AS BG CZ DK FM HU IT NP OQ RW | MBH ERS

QQBE VYXI YOXF XEME FPOX URPV

Puster Bill 03-02-09 04:06 PM

Contact 1604/2/1 17
QBWL DTOQ XPOA EDEG XLJG BAFE IEDF KLLN DDQW OATY
XMXV HXRC QVQL VJSZ RCLP
QBWL DTOQ
SK


The ground settings are the same as yours, using the actual u-boat procedures from http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/enigmaproc.htm (minus the bigram tables)





Contact 03-02-09 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puster Bill
Contact 1604/2/1 17
QBWL DTOQ XPOA EDEG XLJG BAFE IEDF KLLN DDQW OATY
XMXV HXRC QVQL VJSZ RCLP
QBWL DTOQ
SK


The ground settings are the same as yours, using the actual u-boat procedures from http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/enigmaproc.htm (minus the bigram tables)






Something is wrong with this message on my end. Did you made it all exact the same way as I cyphred that message ?

B | II VI VIII | 25 24 05 | AS BG CZ DK FM HU IT NP OQ RW | MBH ERS ?

u-168 03-02-09 05:28 PM

Hi

I have been lerning morse code for a wile now and i think i am getting quite good at it.

Morse code converter.
http://www.scoutnet.nl/~inter/morse/morseform.html

Morse code graph.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Morse_code_tree3.png

Morse code .VS. sms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQaXjqfAgkQ

u-168:cool:

Jazer 03-02-09 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Contact
Morse code lessons combined with Enigma simulator would be a hardcore experience http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/enigmasim.htm :yeah:

It's a shame you can't use it in SH3 though :down:

Kriegsmarine B | II VI VIII | 25 24 05 | AS BG CZ DK FM HU IT NP OQ RW | MBH ERS

QQBE VYXI YOXF XEME FPOX URPV

Awesome program, Ace! Thanks!

Jazer:yeah:

Thomen 03-02-09 05:40 PM

Just for info if interested:
http://cryptocellar.web.cern.ch/cryp...gma/index.html

They got links to authentic messages (both Heer and Kriegsmarine) and links to Enigma simulator programs.

Ktl_KUrtz 03-02-09 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Contact
Morse code lessons combined with Enigma simulator would be a hardcore experience http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/enigmasim.htm :yeah:

It's a shame you can't use it in SH3 though :down:

Kriegsmarine B | II VI VIII | 25 24 05 | AS BG CZ DK FM HU IT NP OQ RW | MBH ERS

QQBE VYXI YOXF XEME FPOX URPV

Congratulations you made it

Use the above key settings, (with the keys set at after your message was sent)
Reply.
-.-. .-- ...- --- -.-. -... ..- -.-. .-- .-- ..- ... - ..-. -.- --. . .-.. -.-- ...- ..- . --. .-. .-. -..- ..- .--. . --.- - ... --- --
.. ...- .--- --.- --- -..- .-- ..- --.. --. -... ..- -- .-
KUrtz

Puster Bill 03-02-09 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Contact
Quote:

Originally Posted by Puster Bill
Contact 1604/2/1 17
QBWL DTOQ XPOA EDEG XLJG BAFE IEDF KLLN DDQW OATY
XMXV HXRC QVQL VJSZ RCLP
QBWL DTOQ
SK


The ground settings are the same as yours, using the actual u-boat procedures from http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/enigmaproc.htm (minus the bigram tables)





Something is wrong with this message on my end. Did you made it all exact the same way as I cyphred that message ?

B | II VI VIII | 25 24 05 | AS BG CZ DK FM HU IT NP OQ RW | MBH ERS ?

My "ground settings" are the same. In other words, this part is the same:

B | II VI VIII | 25 24 05 | AS BG CZ DK FM HU IT NP OQ RW

My indicators, if you looked at standard Ubootwaffe procedure, were buried in the first and second (and last two) groups, with padding applied. The first two groups and last two groups are QBWL DTOQ. Per standard procedure, the first character of the first group, and the last character of the second group, are "padding" that can be ignored, giving a cipher indicator of BWL DTO. Set the wheels to BWL, then type in DTO to get the message setting.

For a real Ubootwaffe message I would have enciphered the first two groups with a bigram table, but I don't have one handy, so I went easy on you:)

The first line is a preamble with the entity the message is for (you), the time sent, the date sent, and the serial number of the message, follow by the number of groups.

The last "SK" is a Morse prosign for "End of Schedule".



Contact 03-03-09 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puster Bill
Quote:

Originally Posted by Contact
Quote:

Originally Posted by Puster Bill
Contact 1604/2/1 17
QBWL DTOQ XPOA EDEG XLJG BAFE IEDF KLLN DDQW OATY
XMXV HXRC QVQL VJSZ RCLP
QBWL DTOQ
SK


The ground settings are the same as yours, using the actual u-boat procedures from http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/enigmaproc.htm (minus the bigram tables)





Something is wrong with this message on my end. Did you made it all exact the same way as I cyphred that message ?

B | II VI VIII | 25 24 05 | AS BG CZ DK FM HU IT NP OQ RW | MBH ERS ?

My "ground settings" are the same. In other words, this part is the same:

B | II VI VIII | 25 24 05 | AS BG CZ DK FM HU IT NP OQ RW

My indicators, if you looked at standard Ubootwaffe procedure, were buried in the first and second (and last two) groups, with padding applied. The first two groups and last two groups are QBWL DTOQ. Per standard procedure, the first character of the first group, and the last character of the second group, are "padding" that can be ignored, giving a cipher indicator of BWL DTO. Set the wheels to BWL, then type in DTO to get the message setting.

For a real Ubootwaffe message I would have enciphered the first two groups with a bigram table, but I don't have one handy, so I went easy on you:)

The first line is a preamble with the entity the message is for (you), the time sent, the date sent, and the serial number of the message, follow by the number of groups.

The last "SK" is a Morse prosign for "End of Schedule".



THAN KSFO RTHE CONG RATU LATI ONSB UTIT SNOT ROCK ETSC IENC EXXX :haha:

Yesterday reading the link you provided to those procedures I noticed the repeat of same two groups in the begining and at the end. So I had a clue that you've changed the kennengrupen but could not figure out what they were. Probably due to late night time here :haha: My bad, sleepy head ain't working right when it comes to figuring out things :) I am going to study the procedure and hopefully will use it later.

Till now I was using the Enigma codebook tool which I find the way too easy already :salute:

P.S. Could I have another message to crack, please ? :D

Contact 03-03-09 01:51 AM

One tiny question: Did you add Kenngrupen QBWL DTOQ manually into the text or somehow via enigma ? :hmmm:

Contact 03-03-09 02:33 AM

Poster Bill 0925/3/ 1 9

. .- .... --.- .--. -- . . --.. -..- -- -.- .- -.- -. .- -... --.- -..- ... ... .- -... -.-- - ...- --- -.- . .- .... --.- .--. -- . .
... -.-

Puster Bill 03-03-09 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Contact
One tiny question: Did you add Kenngrupen QBWL DTOQ manually into the text or somehow via enigma ? :hmmm:

Manually.


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