The new (awsome) GWX aircraft. - Page 4

Hitman · 10-13-07, 04:27 AM

Take a look at this concept:

1.- A sub would be in danger of being spotted in any case in the red area, depending on light, profile and such. Can be used to fine tune the current visual sensor.

2.- In the orange area, the sub would be in danger of being spotted if fully surfaced or with scope extended. Decks awash should reduce the danger greatly, and peri depth exclude it.

3.- In the yellow area, the sub would only riske being spotted if running in the surface with a high periscope.

How does that all sound? Seems possible? I have no idea if giving the sensor a minimal heigth is possible, but the concept could be worth testing :hmm:

joea · 10-13-07, 04:50 AM

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I vote we kidnap Kpt. Lehman and his GWX team and force them to work on a Mod for SH4! Imagine what results could be achieved if we combined the talents of Leovampire, Kriller and Kpt Lehman!? Oh, the humanity!

That will never happen unless you can rewrite history and make the pacific a uboat war fought by germans. They are simply not intrested in the pacifc. Infact, without naming names, one of the gwx team compared the pacific submarine war to be as (in)signfiicant, as the "lithuanian navy"

I won't speak for the rest of the GWX team but that is simply not true for my part.

I don't play SH4 mostly because of my machine and video card but will return once I get a new system. I really like both...just as I fly both "red and blue" in Il-2.

stabiz · 10-13-07, 06:26 AM

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does that mean there is hope for a PWX? :hmm:

RFB or TM is the closest you'll get. The atlantic theater has a much bigger following, so the intrest simply isnt going to be as great. I blame a film by wolfgang peterson.

:rotfl:

Dowly · 10-13-07, 06:32 AM

Maybe one should blame movies like Operation Petticoat?

KrvKpt. Falke · 10-13-07, 06:42 AM

And "U-571"?

Seriously - It has very little to do with movies...

AVGWarhawk · 10-13-07, 06:58 AM

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I vote we kidnap Kpt. Lehman and his GWX team and force them to work on a Mod for SH4! Imagine what results could be achieved if we combined the talents of Leovampire, Kriller and Kpt Lehman!? Oh, the humanity!

That will never happen unless you can rewrite history and make the pacific a uboat war fought by germans. They are simply not intrested in the pacifc. Infact, without naming names, one of the gwx team compared the pacific submarine war to be as (in)signfiicant, as the "lithuanian navy"

Well, I'm glad the GWX team is the forward leading authority on the matters in the Pacific as they chose to grind away their time in the Atlantic. Is that such a fair statement by the "unnamed one"? Sounds like a personal opinion to me.

SH4 will be modded as it is now, teams are already working on bits and pieces of the game. The foundation has been set. I beg to differ that there is no interest in the PTO. The last 3 years the only game to play was SH3 with a side dish of GWX to keep the appetite wet. I would suspect that quite a few will and are tired of the same old hash on the plate. Time for a menu change. I changed my menu. Sh3 is back on the shelf. Stating that there is no interest in the PTO followed up by someone on the GWX team as confirmation is a serious overgeneralization.

Come on Duci, look at the new faces in SH4 and for the love of the game are modding like mad! There are plenty that love the PTO and now that these individuals have a canvas to paint a new game, it will florish. The interested ones are doing their thing and it is growing.

SH3 out of the box was good for about 3 months on my computer. GWX wet my apetite and brought me back in. I want to grow with SH4 and read the books, watch the movies with just as much furver as I did with the ETO and SH3. It has already begun.

skwasjer · 10-13-07, 07:29 AM

I agree with Duci though, I hope this place never inherits the SH3 secret service tactics where everything is kept behind closed doors, or you get hammered if you don't follow 'strict' rules. Modding is about sharing and learning as a community. Not as an individual. I hope we keep that spirit in here

10-13-07, 07:39 AM

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agree with Duci though, I hope this place never inherits the SH3 secret service tactics where everything is kept behind closed doors, or you get hammered if you don't follow 'strict' rules. Modding is about sharing and learning as a community. Not as an individual. I hope we keep that spirit in here

Well said that man, too much sillyness in the SH3 forums, and lots of petty squabbles to boot. There is.....is not....IS...IS NOT

Dowly · 10-13-07, 08:37 AM

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agree with Duci though, I hope this place never inherits the SH3 secret service tactics where everything is kept behind closed doors, or you get hammered if you don't follow 'strict' rules. Modding is about sharing and learning as a community. Not as an individual. I hope we keep that spirit in here

Well said that man, too much sillyness in the SH3 forums, and lots of petty squabbles to boot. There is.....is not....IS...IS NOT

Yet, most of whom started it are now here on the SHIV forums.

tater · 10-13-07, 08:46 AM

Good idea hitman. I will try it.

FWIW, I tried the 2 visual sensor idea last night, and it didn't seem to work. The outer band certainly DID work, the sub was not detected, but even though I added a second O node to minekaze to test, but I'm not sure the game will use it.

Given that they almost all get radar later anyway, it seems like adding a fake early radar that only can detect a sub very close might be the way to go.

tater

Ducimus · 10-13-07, 11:42 AM

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agree with Duci though, I hope this place never inherits the SH3 secret service tactics where everything is kept behind closed doors, or you get hammered if you don't follow 'strict' rules. Modding is about sharing and learning as a community. Not as an individual. I hope we keep that spirit in here

Well said that man, too much sillyness in the SH3 forums, and lots of petty squabbles to boot. There is.....is not....IS...IS NOT

Yet, most of whom started it are now here on the SHIV forums.

Bullschit.

Dowly · 10-13-07, 11:44 AM

Like everything that doesnt suit your mindset.

Ducimus · 10-13-07, 11:52 AM

You picking a fight with me?
Your head is so far up KL's ass, you probably need a snorkel to ****ing breath.

Dowly · 10-13-07, 11:55 AM

No sir, I'm not picking a fight with you. Are you picking one with me? BTW, could you remove the word 'ass' from your post, I find it every offensive.

Ducimus · 10-13-07, 11:58 AM

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No sir, I'm not picking a fight with you. Are you picking one with me?

You already did. If your not here to help with modding SH4, then stop trolling and go back whence you came.

edit: and no im not, i said what i meant to say. I don't give a rats ass if the word offends you or not.

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*sigh*
This folks is the GWX "Good ole boy" net work, in action. Subtle jabs, but surgically made to strike the right cords. Its always a propaganda war, of which they always win. Now i remember why i stopped posting here for awhile. I need to make good on that and not come here anymore. Kinda like how other modders did, and why SH3 modding is a 1 pony show. No game is worth these types of "reindieer games" screw this crap, it will never end.

10-13-07, 04:27 AM	#46
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Take a look at this concept: 1.- A sub would be in danger of being spotted in any case in the red area, depending on light, profile and such. Can be used to fine tune the current visual sensor. 2.- In the orange area, the sub would be in danger of being spotted if fully surfaced or with scope extended. Decks awash should reduce the danger greatly, and peri depth exclude it. 3.- In the yellow area, the sub would only riske being spotted if running in the surface with a high periscope. How does that all sound? Seems possible? I have no idea if giving the sensor a minimal heigth is possible, but the concept could be worth testing :hmm: __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

10-13-07, 06:42 AM	#50
KrvKpt. Falke Planesman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Iron Coffin Posts: 195 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	And "U-571"? Seriously - It has very little to do with movies... __________________ - improved with GWX and...too many to list them here

10-13-07, 07:29 AM	#52
skwasjer The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,549 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 3	I agree with Duci though, I hope this place never inherits the SH3 secret service tactics where everything is kept behind closed doors, or you get hammered if you don't follow 'strict' rules. Modding is about sharing and learning as a community. Not as an individual. I hope we keep that spirit in here __________________ S3D - Silent 3ditor (v0.9.9) - S3D homepage - Open sourced S3D file parser API's - SUBSIM thread SH5 mods: Speech Recognition for SH5 \| Digital UI Clock Tutorials: [TEC] Import/export 3D models to/from game using S3D [TEC] How to work with the model viewer in S3D - VIDEO

10-13-07, 08:46 AM	#55
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Good idea hitman. I will try it. FWIW, I tried the 2 visual sensor idea last night, and it didn't seem to work. The outer band certainly DID work, the sub was not detected, but even though I added a second O node to minekaze to test, but I'm not sure the game will use it. Given that they almost all get radar later anyway, it seems like adding a fake early radar that only can detect a sub very close might be the way to go. tater Last edited by tater; 10-13-07 at 09:22 AM.

10-13-07, 06:32 AM	#49
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Maybe one should blame movies like Operation Petticoat?

10-13-07, 11:44 AM	#57
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Like everything that doesnt suit your mindset.

10-13-07, 11:52 AM	#58
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	You picking a fight with me? Your head is so far up KL's ass, you probably need a snorkel to ****ing breath.

10-13-07, 11:55 AM	#59
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	No sir, I'm not picking a fight with you. Are you picking one with me? BTW, could you remove the word 'ass' from your post, I find it every offensive.