Europe's migrant problem - Page 3

mapuc · 09-03-15, 01:35 PM

I'm divided in this issue.

I really want to help those whose fleeing from wars and persecution

On the other hand I'm sort of very angry when I see:

Refugees makes a scene, because they are given food by Red Cross and they are offend by this "red cross"

When our own homeless or the weak can't get somewhere to live-due to laws, which say refugees comes first.

Making a scene in countries like Denmark, when they get a simple apartment and simple food-Made for them(halal)

I myself are supporting help in their nearby area.

Markus

Betonov · 09-03-15, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

I'm divided in this issue.

I really want to help those whose fleeing from wars and persecution

On the other hand I'm sort of very angry when I see:

I really want to be angry with the hypocrisy of some, but how much of that is ''quote mining'' by the media. A 1000 refugees will accept what help we can give them and the media will ignore and one may cause problems and he will be all over the news.

mapuc · 09-03-15, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betonov

I really want to be angry with the hypocrisy of some, but how much of that is ''quote mining'' by the media. A 1000 refugees will accept what help we can give them and the media will ignore and one may cause problems and he will be all over the news.

I can see I made some misspelling.

I'm not angry at every refugees only at those who cause problems.

You're 150 % right most of them, don't know how many percentage, are just happy to enter a country were he and his family can live in peace and comfort

Markus

ikalugin · 09-03-15, 02:42 PM

Meanwhile - Russian Government offers a free acre of land to any citizen... in the Far East.

ikalugin · 09-03-15, 03:51 PM

I think that goverment stance on distributing resources (such as social housing) to refugees should prioritise citizens over refugees.

Mr Quatro · 09-03-15, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Syria has a border to Turkey. They can just walk over.

I thought the Syrian border with Turkey was controlled by isis.

Shouldn't they be worried about isis playing the game to get into other countries and then causing trouble?

Tchocky · 09-24-15, 06:03 AM

I want to approve, Oberon.

But white text with black borders over a black and white striped shirt!

Haven't even had coffee yet!

Rockstar · 09-24-15, 03:48 PM

So then if my math is correct it should take three weeks to solve the crisis if just Austria's left wing liberal party keeps donating. Oh and who exactley gets to determine what is the truth?

Skybird · 09-25-15, 04:58 AM

On Sweden again.

2014:

2010:

The example we must follow. We must.

The mayor or Nierheim, the city in Germany I mentioned where ordinary people get kicked from their flats to put asylum seekers in them, said that he is not the only nor the first one doing so, but other cities as well. Further research showed me that this is right, it is being practiced on a concealed level (not tp worry the population) in practically every federal state already. Next month, the parliaments of Berlin, Hamburg, Brandenburg, Rheinland-Pfalz, Northrhine-Westfalia and I think Lower Saxony will pass new legislation that makes expropriation easier and allow the state syndicate to rob property that is not theirs from private and corporate holders.

And if this is not lunacy enough on display already: many Germans even like this (except the victims of this state-driven plundering). The syndicate says that it is only "temporary", but if I take your money or car and use it, and tell you that I am not stealing it and that I am not a theft because at one not fixed and not defined day in the future I maybe will give it bad, you wouldn't buy the BS Im talking. I would be a robber, plain and simple.

After WWII, this was done, too. But the desaster back then was caused by Germans. Today, we are being held responsible for the failure of the EU, and the cultural collapse that nobody else is responsible for than the centuries-long inhabitants of these foreign countries themselves, their culture and ideology that they followed since ages and that. Their failure, their ruinous and corrupt culture - but now our penalty fee. Thank you.

Either something is mine, or it is not. You cant take it and use it as if it were yours while violating my will to not leaving it to you all voluntarily and all by my own decision. But hey, socialism has its loudest party running since ever currently. Living on tick and stealing from those who have more than yourself, is hip. You get Nobel Prizes rewarded if finding excuses for why to do it.

I wonder whether in 10 or 15 years the Swedes will be seen still as the more stupid ones than the Germans - or just as the ones who turned insane earlier. We are gaining ground on their lead in the lunacy race quite quickly.

Tchocky · 09-25-15, 06:47 AM

Ugh.

The case in Nieheim is not nearly as clear cut as you're making it look.

Imagine my surprise.

It's social housing owned by the state - which has a "legitimate interest" clause for revocation of the lease. The order doesn't go into effect until May 2016. The tenant has until that time to appeal

This is more notice than you would get from a private landlord.

It's not a happy story by any means, but it's legal and much less apocalyptic than you're making it out to be.

I see there are still no sources on those SEVEN HUNDRED NO GO SHARIA ZONES in France.

It's almost like you're making things up as you go along.

Betonov · 09-25-15, 07:31 AM

Tchocky, I think it's time we also start pulling facts out of our arses.

and you know it's time to retire when the Pope has more common sense than half of GT

Dowly · 09-25-15, 07:42 AM

FOX News mistakes "sensitive urban zone" as muslim controlled zone.
FOX News apologizes for the mistake.

*9 Months Later...*

Skybird still doesn't get it.

Tchocky · 09-29-15, 10:09 AM

So that's a no then.

I'm glad you agree that asking you to back up your fantasy with sources or evidence is a waste of time.

Seriously, if you make a numerical claim them expect to be asked for corroboration. You know how this works.

If it's so easy to find then why don't you go first.

Don't twist the narrative in other directions - you stated there are 700 no-go "sharia zones" in France. Let's have the evidence.

Otherwise, you know, stop.

It's just hot air.

Tchocky · 09-29-15, 10:11 AM

And try to avoid this "head in the sand" nonsense.

I asked you a direct question, several times.

Alex · 01-06-16, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I'm surprised no one has started a topic on this. It's all over the news here. Thousands of migrants trying to get to Germany, England, and Sweden, among other countries. Greece is overrun, Hungary erecting a fence, thousands of Syrians and Africans drowning in the Med or dying in lorries. What the heck's going on over there?

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2016...hebdo-one-year

That one sums it all up fairly well, finally

- pretty good food for thought.

09-03-15, 02:42 PM	#4
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Meanwhile - Russian Government offers a free acre of land to any citizen... in the Far East. __________________ Grumpy as always.

09-03-15, 03:51 PM	#5
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I think that goverment stance on distributing resources (such as social housing) to refugees should prioritise citizens over refugees. __________________ Grumpy as always.

09-24-15, 06:03 AM	#7
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I want to approve, Oberon. But white text with black borders over a black and white striped shirt! Haven't even had coffee yet! __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

09-25-15, 04:58 AM	#9
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,620 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	On Sweden again. 2014: 2010: The example we must follow. We must. The mayor or Nierheim, the city in Germany I mentioned where ordinary people get kicked from their flats to put asylum seekers in them, said that he is not the only nor the first one doing so, but other cities as well. Further research showed me that this is right, it is being practiced on a concealed level (not tp worry the population) in practically every federal state already. Next month, the parliaments of Berlin, Hamburg, Brandenburg, Rheinland-Pfalz, Northrhine-Westfalia and I think Lower Saxony will pass new legislation that makes expropriation easier and allow the state syndicate to rob property that is not theirs from private and corporate holders. And if this is not lunacy enough on display already: many Germans even like this (except the victims of this state-driven plundering). The syndicate says that it is only "temporary", but if I take your money or car and use it, and tell you that I am not stealing it and that I am not a theft because at one not fixed and not defined day in the future I maybe will give it bad, you wouldn't buy the BS Im talking. I would be a robber, plain and simple. After WWII, this was done, too. But the desaster back then was caused by Germans. Today, we are being held responsible for the failure of the EU, and the cultural collapse that nobody else is responsible for than the centuries-long inhabitants of these foreign countries themselves, their culture and ideology that they followed since ages and that. Their failure, their ruinous and corrupt culture - but now our penalty fee. Thank you. Either something is mine, or it is not. You cant take it and use it as if it were yours while violating my will to not leaving it to you all voluntarily and all by my own decision. But hey, socialism has its loudest party running since ever currently. Living on tick and stealing from those who have more than yourself, is hip. You get Nobel Prizes rewarded if finding excuses for why to do it. I wonder whether in 10 or 15 years the Swedes will be seen still as the more stupid ones than the Germans - or just as the ones who turned insane earlier. We are gaining ground on their lead in the lunacy race quite quickly. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 09-25-15 at 05:07 AM.

09-25-15, 06:47 AM	#10
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Ugh. The case in Nieheim is not nearly as clear cut as you're making it look. Imagine my surprise. It's social housing owned by the state - which has a "legitimate interest" clause for revocation of the lease. The order doesn't go into effect until May 2016. The tenant has until that time to appeal This is more notice than you would get from a private landlord. It's not a happy story by any means, but it's legal and much less apocalyptic than you're making it out to be. I see there are still no sources on those SEVEN HUNDRED NO GO SHARIA ZONES in France. It's almost like you're making things up as you go along. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

09-03-15, 01:35 PM	#1
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I'm divided in this issue. I really want to help those whose fleeing from wars and persecution On the other hand I'm sort of very angry when I see: Refugees makes a scene, because they are given food by Red Cross and they are offend by this "red cross" When our own homeless or the weak can't get somewhere to live-due to laws, which say refugees comes first. Making a scene in countries like Denmark, when they get a simple apartment and simple food-Made for them(halal) I myself are supporting help in their nearby area. Markus

09-24-15, 03:48 PM	#8
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	So then if my math is correct it should take three weeks to solve the crisis if just Austria's left wing liberal party keeps donating. Oh and who exactley gets to determine what is the truth?

09-25-15, 07:31 AM	#11
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Tchocky, I think it's time we also start pulling facts out of our arses. and you know it's time to retire when the Pope has more common sense than half of GT

09-25-15, 07:42 AM	#12
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	FOX News mistakes "sensitive urban zone" as muslim controlled zone. FOX News apologizes for the mistake. 9 Months Later... Skybird still doesn't get it.

09-29-15, 10:09 AM	#13
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	So that's a no then. I'm glad you agree that asking you to back up your fantasy with sources or evidence is a waste of time. Seriously, if you make a numerical claim them expect to be asked for corroboration. You know how this works. If it's so easy to find then why don't you go first. Don't twist the narrative in other directions - you stated there are 700 no-go "sharia zones" in France. Let's have the evidence. Otherwise, you know, stop. It's just hot air. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

09-29-15, 10:11 AM	#14
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	And try to avoid this "head in the sand" nonsense. I asked you a direct question, several times. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]