Ship sinking!!

Reece · 06-16-13, 09:51 PM

Just received this on a HYDROPAC message:

VESSEL HORIZON SINKING IN 16-47.702S 171-34.685W.
THREE PERSONS ABANDONED TO LIFERAFT

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK130...nking-ship.htm

Jimbuna · 06-17-13, 04:36 PM

Good outcome

Red October1984 · 06-17-13, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Good outcome

A ship was lost and this is good?

Yes people were saved...thats great...but a ship was also sunk! That's not awesome.

Sailor Steve · 06-17-13, 05:25 PM

Where did he say it was awesome? The crew could have died. They were saved. Ships can be replaced. Lives can't.

Grow up.

Red October1984 · 06-17-13, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Where did he say it was awesome? The crew could have died. They were saved. Ships can be replaced. Lives can't.

I was meaning that it shouldn't happen in the first place!

Ships sinking is never good.

I know that ships can be replaced and that it's really really good that they saved these people...but I'm saying that it would be better if it didn't even happen.

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Grow up.

Reece · 06-17-13, 06:51 PM

Don't get upset, was just a bad hair day for Steve!!

Cybermat47 · 06-17-13, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Reece

Just received this on a HYDROPAC message:

VESSEL HORIZON SINKING IN 16-47.702S 171-34.685W.
THREE PERSONS ABANDONED TO LIFERAFT

Forgive me for my ignorance, but how did you receive this message?

[SOCIALSUICIDE]And what's HYDROPAC?[/SOCIALSUICIDE]

Red October1984 · 06-17-13, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Forgive me for my ignorance, but how did you receive this message?

I was wondering the same....

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Not at all. What he said was totally uncalled for, attacking someone for saying the crew surviving was a good outcome? Just went down several notches in my book.

Not, as he constantly brags, that he cares one way or the other.

I'm done.

Okay...what I said was not worded correctly...also once again I have shoved my size 15 foot in my mouth and down my throat.

I constantly brag that I care about things?

If there's something that I'm doing that you don't like...tell me please. If I'm doing something and I'm not aware of it I can't change it. I didn't mean to attack Jimbuna. I was trying to say that this entire ordeal is bad and shouldn't have happened. Yes, it's great that the crew was recovered alive...but it would've been much better if a boat didn't sink and people's lives weren't put in danger.

I can't change your opinion of me. What you think of me is your opinion and everybody is entitled to their own. I know I've apologized many times before and I probably will apologize many more times throughout my lifetime. This is yet another example of how I didn't think before I posted. If I had elaborated a bit and thought about the post it would've come out different.

BrucePartington · 06-17-13, 09:51 PM

FWIW, you're ok in my book, I understood your comment correctly.
It seems G.S.Patton also suffered from this "ailment": "your own mouth is your worst enemy!"
And I'm also a member of this particular club

Back on OT, it's great news the crew was saved. Many fishermen are not so lucky.

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Okay...what I said was not worded correctly...also once again I have shoved my size 15 foot in my mouth and down my throat.

(snip)
I was trying to say that this entire ordeal is bad and shouldn't have happened. Yes, it's great that the crew was recovered alive...but it would've been much better if a boat didn't sink and people's lives weren't put in danger.

I can't change your opinion of me. What you think of me is your opinion and everybody is entitled to their own. I know I've apologized many times before and I probably will apologize many more times throughout my lifetime. This is yet another example of how I didn't think before I posted. If I had elaborated a bit and thought about the post it would've come out different.

CaptainMattJ. · 06-17-13, 11:22 PM

The fact that the boat sank and that people's lives were put in danger is obviously not good.

Your comment, however, were a bit unnecessary because you misunderstood Jim's comment. He said that it was a good outcome. Outcome, implying that he was talking about the response that happened AFTER the boat's sinking was inevitable, and not the event as a whole.

You of course know that now and everything, but don't jump at something without understanding it thoroughly first. That's how arguments that shouldn't happen in the first place start.

Red October1984 · 06-17-13, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

The fact that the boat sank and that people's lives were put in danger is obviously not good.

Your comment, however, were a bit unnecessary because you misunderstood Jim's comment. He said that it was a good outcome. Outcome, implying that he was talking about the response that happened AFTER the boat's sinking was inevitable, and not the event as a whole.

You of course know that now and everything, but don't jump at something without understanding it thoroughly first. That's how arguments that shouldn't happen in the first place start.

Think before I post....Got it.

The past two days...I think I just need a good punch in the face.

Sailor Steve · 06-18-13, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Red October1984

I constantly brag that I care about things?

No, you've said several times in the last few days that you don't care what people think.

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If there's something that I'm doing that you don't like...tell me please.

No, this one thing just set me off.

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Yes, it's great that the crew was recovered alive...but it would've been much better if a boat didn't sink and people's lives weren't put in danger.

Ships sink. Planes crash. Cars crash. Fires happen. Buildings collapse. It's a fact of life. When it does happen the best possible outcome is that the lives can be saved. When everyone gets out alive it's a good day.

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I know I've apologized many times before and I probably will apologize many more times throughout my lifetime. This is yet another example of how I didn't think before I posted.

It's not that. You've insisted a couple of times recently that you're no longer a kid. This seemed particularly childish to me.

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If I had elaborated a bit and thought about the post it would've come out different.

The minimalist best would have been "I wish the ship could have been saved too", but everyone feels that way, which is why we have the phrase "that goes without saying."

AVGWarhawk · 06-18-13, 10:46 AM

Did a ship sink?

Sailor Steve · 06-18-13, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Did a ship sink?

No. It's a conspiracy.

Red October1984 · 06-18-13, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

It's not that. You've insisted a couple of times recently that you're no longer a kid. This seemed particularly childish to me.

Everybody has their moments.

This was one of mine.

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The minimalist best would have been "I wish the ship could have been saved too", but everyone feels that way, which is why we have the phrase "that goes without saying."

I know now what I should've said but at this point it's done.

Just have to turn the page and move on and try to do better.

06-16-13, 09:51 PM	#1
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,708 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Ship sinking!! Just received this on a HYDROPAC message: VESSEL HORIZON SINKING IN 16-47.702S 171-34.685W. THREE PERSONS ABANDONED TO LIFERAFT http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK130...nking-ship.htm __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!* Last edited by Reece; 06-17-13 at 04:01 AM.

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Good outcome __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Where did he say it was awesome? The crew could have died. They were saved. Ships can be replaced. Lives can't. Grow up. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,708 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Don't get upset, was just a bad hair day for Steve!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

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CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	The fact that the boat sank and that people's lives were put in danger is obviously not good. Your comment, however, were a bit unnecessary because you misunderstood Jim's comment. He said that it was a good outcome. Outcome, implying that he was talking about the response that happened AFTER the boat's sinking was inevitable, and not the event as a whole. You of course know that now and everything, but don't jump at something without understanding it thoroughly first. That's how arguments that shouldn't happen in the first place start. __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,256 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Did a ship sink? __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road