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[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by RustySubmarine

Much better than the Stock/GWX interface.

For you, maybe. I use FLB_Sales's 'Simfeeling 6-Dials' mod, which removes the interface entirely. Every single item on the screen becomes a slideout, so I don't have to see anything at all unless I need it. To me that's much more realistic.

[ninja turtle]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

For you, maybe. I use FLB_Sales's 'Simfeeling 6-Dials' mod, which removes the interface entirely. Every single item on the screen becomes a slideout, so I don't have to see anything at all unless I need it. To me that's much more realistic.

Ooh that's sounds like a good mod I'm going to look into. I've recently been trying to take the interface off using 'del' key, making commands with the keyboard only putting it back on when I need it

[Sailor Steve]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...74&postcount=5

Be warned, though - it requires some work. You have to edit the menu.ini yourself. It's and easy copy-and-paste, but it takes patience.

[Reinhard Hardegen]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Yes, the nearly-five-hour "Uncut" version is the one to see. I have all three versions and that's the only one I ever watch.

Same here, I like to watch it in German with English subtitles.

[RustySubmarine]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...74&postcount=5

Be warned, though - it requires some work. You have to edit the menu.ini yourself. It's and easy copy-and-paste, but it takes patience.

No I'm sticking with the OLC GUI, straight forward install with JSGME, no files or scripts to alter. This is one reason I came back to SH3 from SH5, as the best GUI mods need lots of self tweaking, alright if you know what you are doing, but not if you don't. Any Mod that needs files editing before it works, I try to avoid. If SH5, had a decent full blown super mod like GWX Gold, then it would make things easier for those not familiar with editing and changes files. This is sometimes what put's newbies off sticking with these sims. They want something better than stock, but not something that needs a computer wizard, to get everything working.

I'll get of my soap box now and enjoy SH3, with my new GUI and what mods I have also installed to make it enjoyable for me, at least.

[guntherprien]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

And more than one u-boatman said similar bad things about Buchheim's book, so he really didn't have that high of a perch to preach from.

But Buchheim served on a U-Boat as an official naval correspondent,as well as a lieutenant on minesweepers and destroyers during WW2,I think this more than qualifies him to "preach" from a perch.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by guntherprien

But Buchheim served on a U-Boat as an official naval correspondent,as well as a lieutenant on minesweepers and destroyers during WW2,I think this more than qualifies him to "preach" from a perch.

That's my point. He was not a "real" u-boat sailor, and some (not all) of the men who were there said he got it wrong. Don't mistake me; I love the movie and I love the book. I was only pointing out that some of the criticisms he levelled at the movie were also levelled at his book by some of those he served with.

[ninja turtle]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Be warned, though - it requires some work. You have to edit the menu.ini yourself. It's and easy copy-and-paste, but it takes patience.

Originally Posted by RustySubmarine

No I'm sticking with the OLC GUI, straight forward install with JSGME, no files or scripts to alter. This is one reason I came back to SH3 from SH5, as the best GUI mods need lots of self tweaking, alright if you know what you are doing, but not if you don't. Any Mod that needs files editing before it works, I try to avoid.

Hi Sailor Steve

Thanks for the heads-up. I checked out the mod site just before reading your reply and it does look pretty awesome. I agree with RustySubmarine as I'm not very good at mods that involve changing menus. I started installing mods in SH5 but spent most of my time changing and finding mods rather than actually sinking ships

I'm thinking SH3 might be my limit for realism and immersion

[RustySubmarine]

Try the OLC Interface Glenn, if you haven't tried this before, apart from the one Sailor Steve is on about, it must be the next best. I have been using it over the last few days and it's pretty good. I think I will be sticking with this one. On my third patrol atm, found a four ship convoy in the Irish Sea, just of Holyhead, (decided to take this route for a change, round the north coast of Ireland). two large tankers, a large freighter and a tramp steamer (no escorts) sunk all four over a period of one hour, had to give chase for the second tanker, but she got a fish in her belly, from my stern tube. Boy what an explosion, must have ruptured one of her fuel tanks. She listed to port soon after hitting her and then one massive explosion, before sinking beneath the waves. Had to crash dive, soon after as I was attacked by a couple of Hurricanes, just off the Bristol Channel, but sustained no damage and lay low until dusk, resurfaced just of the southern Irish coast and proceeded to my patrol area grid Am67, after deciding to stick to my first plotted route from Lorient.

[ninja turtle]

Originally Posted by RustySubmarine

Try the OLC Interface Glenn, if you haven't tried this before, apart from the one Sailor Steve is on about, it must be the next best. I have been using it over the last few days and it's pretty good. I think I will be sticking with this one.

Thanks for the direction, Geoff. I'm sure I've used OLC before but can't double check till I'm back down south (oh how I miss my gaming PC). I'm presently using MGui Final version which I like. Can you list your mod soup either here or PM me. Sounds like you have some good combinations

Originally Posted by RustySubmarine

On my third patrol atm, found a four ship convoy in the Irish Sea, just of Holyhead, (decided to take this route for a change, round the north coast of Ireland). two large tankers, a large freighter and a tramp steamer (no escorts) sunk all four over a period of one hour, had to give chase for the second tanker, but she got a fish in her belly, from my stern tube. Boy what an explosion, must have ruptured one of her fuel tanks. She listed to port soon after hitting her and then one massive explosion, before sinking beneath the waves. Had to crash dive, soon after as I was attacked by a couple of Hurricanes, just off the Bristol Channel, but sustained no damage and lay low until dusk, resurfaced just of the southern Irish coast and proceeded to my patrol area grid Am67, after deciding to stick to my first plotted route from Lorient.

I'm still currently finding lone merchants (which is nice) or sailing into harbours at night and sinking anchored targets if it's worth the danger of being damaged. Mind you I'm still in November '39. I'm on my way back to Kiel

[RustySubmarine]

Done a bit of mooching around harbours myself. Have you tried Scapa! Use the far north passage, and start your entry as night falls, you can sneak in so far on the surface, but avoid nights when the moon is out. Be careful as you enter the main area at the end of the channel, as there are some blockade ships, you need to keep mid channel. As soon as you clear these, submerge to periscope depth and rig for silent running. There are a few Destroyers patrolling, but these will anchor around 11pm - midnight and you can pick one of these off with a fish from your stern tube on your way out. There is usually a couple of Capital ships anchored and a few Merchants for the picking, but take the BBs, Cruisers or AC (if you are lucky) I sunk HMS Glorious with HMS Renown when I was there. Keep silent running on all the time, until you clear the main area and enter the channel you came in at. you can clear the blockade ships submerged, but keep mid channel or you will run aground if to close to shore (there are no nets or mines in the channel (or there wasn't in early 1940 when I sneaked in) You should get out of the northern channel by about 6am, but be careful, keep submerged as you will have two or three destroyers hunting you until you can shake them off. Go deep when in deeper water and just sit it out until they call it a day. Then you can surface when all is clear. Worked ok for me!

[Gustav Schiebert]

I bought the uncut version off Amazon recently. I'm English but learning German, so I like to listen with the German audio and sometimes with the English subs to see how much I can pick up - although I've seen it so many times I remember most of the dialogue before it comes up.

Interestingly, the DVD also has an English audio track with is much more a direct translation of the German. The 'stock' English audio from the original release (the one that's with the full film on YouTube) is very toned down in terms of the obscenity the sailors talk about (ie "do you have any hairs up your arse" becomes "do you have any hairs up your nose") - ostensibly to get it past the censors for the US release. Mine seems to have all these bits directly translated into English, obscenity and all.

I'm pretty sure the actors did two English versions. (Got to 34:20 in the Youtube full film) In the scene where the Old Man gets the signal on the convoy, and the 1WO keeps pestering him to read it I've heard Hubertus Bengsch (1WO) read out the convoy square. In my DVD version he mispronounces 22 as 'Two'ty Two', instead of 'Twenty Two', whereas on the YouTube version he says 'Twenty Two'.

Anyone else noticed that?

Oh, and I didn't know until I looked at his Wikipedia article that Bengsch also does all the dubbing for Richard Gere when his films are translated into German ... pub quiz fact there!

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Gustav Schiebert

IOh, and I didn't know until I looked at his Wikipedia article that Bengsch also does all the dubbing for Richard Gere when his films are translated into German ... pub quiz fact there!

That's pretty cool. I didn't know that either.

[Redbear]

I also have three versions - bluray, director's cut superbit and the full length version. I have to say I like the full length version, but don't often have time to watch it! In that case, my go-to choice is now usually the bluray.

[HW3]

I've had the directors cut version for several years. The full length version should arrive today! I'm looking forward to watching it.