Waitress fired after posting controversial pastor receipt

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by donna52522

Why does the pastor only give 10% to God...shouldn't he give 110%?

More confusingly... why and how does he give money to God, who doesn't need it?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

More confusingly... why and how does he give money to God, who doesn't need it?

Says who?

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

http://blog.chron.com/hottopics/2013...ipt-on-reddit/



I don't know, maybe it because the Almighty didn't bring you an omlette with toast and the waitress did. Cheap stiff

Maybe he should give God 20%...

Oh, man. One of my favorite subjects. How did I miss this?!

As an ex-server who's to be married to an ex-bartender, I have a lot of opinions on the subject.

The worst were the hardcore churchgoers who would tip you with their bible tracts.



If you ever want to enrage a server and ensure that you'll be eating spit or food that's fallen on the floor the next time you visit that particular restaurant, go ahead and leave that as your tip.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

In my neck of the woods generally 8 or more the gratuity is automatically calculated. I'm not always a fan of this practice because it kind of provides the right for the server to handle the service how they wish while still receiving the automatic gratuity. In other words, you don't have a say(monetarily) if the service is bad.

USUALLY, the automatic grat can be removed upon request. There are some restaurants that make it a requirement, and it's posted very conspicuously near the door if that's the case.

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

It's necessary to have that for large parties because in many cases, a party of 8 will tip like a party of 3.

YES. This is exactly why the automatic grat system was initiated.

Originally Posted by Skybird

I expect to be payed by the guy who employs me and for whom to work I accepted - and that is my employer, the company, boss, maitre de maison, whomever.

Tips are not meant to replace ordinary and regular income for the work done. They are meant as an additional bonus by a guests who is pleased by the good service and wants to say thanks and express his appreciations for some performance that has gone beyond the minimum standard niveau that has to be expected for the price that got payed to the house.

If an employer reduces the wages to his staff because he sees tips coming in for his staff, then he somewhat takes these guests' gifts to service staff for himself - by refusing the staff the wage that there work really is worth. You could pay the tip directly to the manager in the backroom then.

By this you can in principle justify that employers do not pay their employed staff any wages at all. That is the logic of a pimp, then. You could even argue then that employed people not only do not get payed out wages, but that they have to pay a certain amount of their tips to the employer for giving them the place where they could try to collect tips. Capitalism is great, isn't it.

Any economical structure and so: jobs as well should be established on the basis that somebody doing a normal regular weeks schedule of working hours gets payed a salary by his employer that is fair and enables him to make a living. Else the economic branch is unhealthy and rotten, and anti-social. In return, everybody taking money for his working hours should return working quality that justifies these payments. If the one or the other is not given, the employer fires the employed (work results do not justify the wages payed out), or the employed leaves by himself (wages payeddo not justify the work one delivers).

So, giving tips is not a compensation for the salaries the employer does not pay out. It is an extra gift given by the guest for appreciating the performance by staff.

To me, the situation as described - tips needing to compensate for too low wages - is nothing else but abusive behavior by the employer. It kills the intention of the guest. It does not motivate for "standard+better" performance by giving additional cash, but it enslaves people to perform always better without having any additional value for that. Because the added value gets substracted from their ordinary payment by their employer.

Almost a prototypic capitalistic constellation of abuse, imo. Ferenghis no doubt love it.

Well Sky, it's a bit different over here. The prices on restaurant menus are cheaper here, because they're only the price for the food. The tip is the price you pay for the service. It's up to you, on the honor system, to determine how well the service was and what sort of tip is warranted. You can rail against the system and say it's not fair and the employer should pay more, blah blah, but it doesn't change anything. Those servers are relying on tips to live upon. The price of the service is not built into the menu price. So no, it's not an "extra" given out for good service. Maybe in Europe it is, but not here.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Once my brother, at a restaurant, asked the waitress no less than 5 times for ketchup. It never came. When he got up to leave he stated to waitress he left the tip under the ketchup.

That's hilarious. Only one time have I been so pissed as to leave a $0.05 tip. I made sure it was $0.05 because I wanted her to know that I'm the type of guy who tips generously, but her service was only worth a nickel. When I have to go over to the coffee stand and pour my own coffee because I've asked for it multiple times to no avail, that's nickel-worthy service.

[HundertzehnGustav]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I expect to be payed by the guy who employs me and for whom to work I accepted - and that is my employer, the company, boss, maitre de maison, whomever.

Tips are not meant to replace ordinary and regular income for the work done. They are meant as an additional bonus by a guests who is pleased by the good service and wants to say thanks and express his appreciations for some performance that has gone beyond the minimum standard niveau that has to be expected for the price that got payed to the house.

If an employer reduces the wages to his staff because he sees tips coming in for his staff, then he somewhat takes these guests' gifts to service staff for himself - by refusing the staff the wage that there work really is worth. You could pay the tip directly to the manager in the backroom then.

By this you can in principle justify that employers do not pay their employed staff any wages at all. That is the logic of a pimp, then. You could even argue then that employed people not only do not get payed out wages, but that they have to pay a certain amount of their tips to the employer for giving them the place where they could try to collect tips. Capitalism is great, isn't it.

Any economical structure and so: jobs as well should be established on the basis that somebody doing a normal regular weeks schedule of working hours gets payed a salary by his employer that is fair and enables him to make a living. Else the economic branch is unhealthy and rotten, and anti-social. In return, everybody taking money for his working hours should return working quality that justifies these payments. If the one or the other is not given, the employer fires the employed (work results do not justify the wages payed out), or the employed leaves by himself (wages payeddo not justify the work one delivers).

So, giving tips is not a compensation for the salaries the employer does not pay out. It is an extra gift given by the guest for appreciating the performance by staff.

To me, the situation as described - tips needing to compensate for too low wages - is nothing else but abusive behavior by the employer. It kills the intention of the guest. It does not motivate for "standard+better" performance by giving additional cash, but it enslaves people to perform always better without having any additional value for that. Because the added value gets substracted from their ordinary payment by their employer.

Almost a prototypic capitalistic constellation of abuse, imo.

signed.

One works for a living. Local culture describes "tips" as small personal gifts, signs for appreciation as well.

I do so well on that new IT job, i can use the tips to pay half my food.
It is good, because 86% of the pay is needed to pay the basic Bills.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Says who?

Well I'd assume an omnipresent being who made everything wouldn't need money because he could just make anything he wanted.

[HundertzehnGustav]

and the richer the customer, the lousier the tip.
we charge 150 balls for a reinstall [OS + drivers + updates + set of desired software] + installation at home, checks and configuration

i had a customer do me a reinstall, and he came over to pester me 5 times, costing me two hours of attention, he hung around the workshop looking over my shoulder, and still requiring more explanations.

reinstall + home install =150
2 hours of explanations locally = 2x60 = 120
Normal = 270

what he got billed: 170 [100 off, just to get rid of him]
my tip: 10
[so you know i can come back to you and ask a few questions here and there, and you will help me, will you ]

he came back, handed me his LuxTrust online certificate dongle knowing he should not, and i "inadvertedly" called his bank stating i had his dongle and his PIN, as i am trying to resolve an issue.
They were mad and locked his accounts.

OOPS.


GTFO...

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Well I'd assume an omnipresent being who made everything wouldn't need money because he could just make anything he wanted.

Counterfeiting is against the law!
I don't think anyone here can show a law on the books that says God can do it and it's O.K.
(I'm being just as serious as you. LOL!!)

[Sailor Steve]

There's no official government record to show that God made anything.

Is he guilty of contracting without a license?

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

There's no official government record to show that God made anything.

Is he guilty of contracting without a license?

Oh no, I've been helping an illegal!

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Oh no, I've been helping an illegal!

Come to think of it, you may be right. I've never seen any citizenship papers, for America or Austalia. Does He even have an Israeli birth certificate?

They say he was registered in the Roman rolls, but I've never seen it!

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

There's no official government record to show that God made anything.

Is he guilty of contracting without a license?

No. God is referenced in the phrase "In God We Trust"
That, in a Court of law, could be argued as admitting that God exists and that we entered into a trust with said person or being.
The additional "All others pay cash" is to be added sometime later this year.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

The worst were the hardcore churchgoers who would tip you with their bible tracts.



If you ever want to enrage a server and ensure that you'll be eating spit or food that's fallen on the floor the next time you visit that particular restaurant, go ahead and leave that as your tip.

Wow. Lame, just lame. Thou shalt not tip, I suppose.

[August]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

There's no official government record to show that God made anything.

Is he guilty of contracting without a license?

Maybe but the statue of limitations would surely have run out by now being between 5000 and a gazillion years ago depending on who is counting.

Obviously he has not chosen to exercise any copyrights against the scientists fiddling with DNA trying to create new life.

He never filed copyrights so can't fight on that.
No patents on record I can find.
Though he could maybe file defamation or slander Law suits.


He's a sure winner for those cases if he shows up in Court, in person!

[August]

Originally Posted by privateer

He never filed copyrights so can't fight on that.
No patents on record I can find.
Though he could maybe file defamation or slander Law suits.


He's a sure winner for those cases if he shows up in Court, in person!

"There's no point in acting all surprised about it. The plans and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning office in Alpha Centauri for fifty of your Earth years, so you've had plenty of time to lodge formal complaints."