[REQ] Interim cloned merchant shipping - Page 3

bigboywooly · 03-25-10, 12:23 AM

Cool but hideous

still at least it worked and thats a start

tater · 03-25-10, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

yeah i think newly modeled ships are a must. Sh4 ships look passable in Sh5...but not sh3 ships

but don't worry...if there's a way subsim can find it!

Yeah, if the o-maps can be made to work.

It's that thought that makes me interested in a sans-DRM version---a total conversion to the pacific. dumping everything in from SH4.

wamphyri · 03-25-10, 02:17 AM

I just can't fathom why my sh4 models won't appear with a texture. It's driving me crazy.

wamphyri · 03-25-10, 03:09 AM

Well I managed to get a sh4 ship to display textures. It isn't pretty as these screenshots will show. I'm working on making a small tutorial about what I did for both the sh3 and sh4 models so that others may pickup where I left off. For those astute to recognize .. I had tried to import a sh4 fishing vessel. Can you see what's wrong with it? There are many thing wrong with it. Time could fix it all(easily).. I did this all in an hour including testing. But it wasn't as easy as importing a sh3 model. The biggest thing is I can't get them to appear with all the fantastic sh4 effects, this one doesn't look much different from my sh3 one other than better textures. Le Sigh

BEHOLD .. the lack of might of the sh4 fishing trawler!!!

sergei · 03-25-10, 05:00 AM

Good stuff wamphyri.
I got that far - see image

It's got a basic texture, but so far all my attempts to apply the bump and occlusion maps have defeated me.

Did you have to embed the tex file into the dat (that's the only way I could get it to show) or did you find another way?

coronas · 03-25-10, 05:03 AM

@Sergei:
Dan said oclusion map is missing. How add to your model?

sergei · 03-25-10, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by coronas

How add to your model?

I wish I knew. That's the thing I cannot figure out.

coronas · 03-25-10, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sergei

I wish I knew. That's the thing I cannot figure out.

I hope you find a solution soon.

A link: http://www.modthesims.info/printthread.php?t=369089

03-25-10, 02:08 PM

I'm not sure about others, but for me to sit like a dog and clap in my hands we don't need fancy textures or what not. If any (and i mean any) ship with realistic shape can get into SH-5 and have there German merchants be substituted from Liberty Freighters, it have my 100% support.

I'm fed up with that unrealistic and terrible error that UBI made there

IMO those fishing vessels and that freighter above can sail around in my SH-5 without me giving any wind about bad texturing....

Feed us the ships

wamphyri · 03-25-10, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sergei

Good stuff wamphyri.
It's got a basic texture, but so far all my attempts to apply the bump and occlusion maps have defeated me.

Did you have to embed the tex file into the dat (that's the only way I could get it to show) or did you find another way?

Like you I could only get it to show if I put the textures into the dat. I think the biggest problem is the controller that sh4 used to add the bump and occlusion maps isn't compatible with sh5. So it seems like we're kinda stuck since sh5 has all that stuff in the granny file and doesn't use a controller for it.

We may have to turn our powers over to making textures that give the appearance of occlusion/bump.

sergei · 03-25-10, 03:35 PM

Thanks for the reply wamphyri.

I was beginning to think I had missed something obvious.

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Originally Posted by wamphyri

We may have to turn our powers over to making textures that give the appearance of occlusion/bump.

I dunno where to start with this really. But I'll have a go and see what I can come up with.

coronas · 03-25-10, 03:46 PM

I did a search in Google and found and article about an old Ubi game (Catz and Dogz):
"The textures files are in the Textures/ folder in plain dds format."

Are textures in .dat TGA files? Try convert .TGA to .DDS.

wamphyri · 03-25-10, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coronas

I did a search in Google and found and article about an old Ubi game (Catz and Dogz):
"The textures files are in the Textures/ folder in plain dds format."

Are textures in .dat TGA files? Try convert .TGA to .DDS.

no no .. that's not the problem. In sh4 the textures can be changed just by changing a txt file to point you at a different texture to use. But sh5 doesn't support this it seems so we have to put the textures directly into the .dat, either .tga or .dds, their both supported.

coronas · 03-25-10, 03:58 PM

Thanks for the answer. I´ll keep searching.

sergei · 03-25-10, 04:16 PM

Hey thanks for trying coronas

Keep looking, you might find something we have overlooked.

03-25-10, 12:23 AM	#31
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Cool but hideous still at least it worked and thats a start __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

03-25-10, 05:03 AM	#36
coronas Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Asturias, España Posts: 1,168 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	@Sergei: Dan said oclusion map is missing. How add to your model? __________________

03-25-10, 03:46 PM	#42
coronas Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Asturias, España Posts: 1,168 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	I did a search in Google and found and article about an old Ubi game (Catz and Dogz): "The textures files are in the Textures/ folder in plain dds format." Are textures in .dat TGA files? Try convert .TGA to .DDS. __________________

03-25-10, 03:58 PM	#44
coronas Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Asturias, España Posts: 1,168 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the answer. I´ll keep searching. __________________

03-25-10, 02:17 AM	#33
wamphyri Lieutenant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lethbridge, Alberta Posts: 260 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	I just can't fathom why my sh4 models won't appear with a texture. It's driving me crazy.

03-25-10, 03:09 AM	#34
wamphyri Lieutenant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lethbridge, Alberta Posts: 260 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Well I managed to get a sh4 ship to display textures. It isn't pretty as these screenshots will show. I'm working on making a small tutorial about what I did for both the sh3 and sh4 models so that others may pickup where I left off. For those astute to recognize .. I had tried to import a sh4 fishing vessel. Can you see what's wrong with it? There are many thing wrong with it. Time could fix it all(easily).. I did this all in an hour including testing. But it wasn't as easy as importing a sh3 model. The biggest thing is I can't get them to appear with all the fantastic sh4 effects, this one doesn't look much different from my sh3 one other than better textures. Le Sigh BEHOLD .. the lack of might of the sh4 fishing trawler!!!

03-25-10, 05:00 AM	#35
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	Good stuff wamphyri. I got that far - see image It's got a basic texture, but so far all my attempts to apply the bump and occlusion maps have defeated me. Did you have to embed the tex file into the dat (that's the only way I could get it to show) or did you find another way?

03-25-10, 02:08 PM	#39
Mav87th Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I'm not sure about others, but for me to sit like a dog and clap in my hands we don't need fancy textures or what not. If any (and i mean any) ship with realistic shape can get into SH-5 and have there German merchants be substituted from Liberty Freighters, it have my 100% support. I'm fed up with that unrealistic and terrible error that UBI made there IMO those fishing vessels and that freighter above can sail around in my SH-5 without me giving any wind about bad texturing.... Feed us the ships

03-25-10, 04:16 PM	#45
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	Hey thanks for trying coronas Keep looking, you might find something we have overlooked.