DRM continues to be an issue. - Page 3

Nisgeis · 03-09-10, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by razark

Perhaps Razark is confused.

So what we have here is a bit of information that makes the game playable offline for legal owners, but does not allow pirates to play? Or did I completely miss the point?

If someone can clarify that, I would be grateful.

I just saw that spammy new post and I have no idea what to make of it, so I deleted my original post, cos I thought it was a workaround for a legal version and as I had DRM probs the other day I was interested in it, but what was posted was ... well, I didn't know what to make of it and changing files in such a way that people who didn't buy... what it could do for pirates I have no idea... oh man I'm not even to try and work it out. That's why I deleted my post, but you were too quick

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razark · 03-09-10, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis

I just saw that spammy new post and I have no idea what to make of it, so I deleted my original post, cos I thought it was a workaround for a legal version and as I had DRM probs the other day I was interested in it, but what was posted was ... well, I didn't know what to make of it and changing files in such a way that people who didn't buy... what it could do for pirates I have no idea... oh man I'm not even to try and work it out. That's why I deleted my post, but you were too quick

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That new post that's not there any more? I tried to read it, but it seemed a bit ADD. You want me to delete your now missing post I quoted?

Fincuan · 03-09-10, 05:26 PM

In theory the instructions should apply to both equally, as the root problem is the same: The lack of connection to the OSP server prevents stuff from happening in the game, and with those instructions you can supposedly bypass the limit.

Nisgeis · 03-09-10, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by razark

That new post that's not there any more? I tried to read it, but it seemed a bit ADD. You want me to delete your now missing post I quoted?

Nah, cos then I'd have to delete the post I quoted in response to you and you me and then you...

. It was the ADD-ness about that post that shall not be named that worried me

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EDIT: I'll just sit on my hands for ten minutes in future before posting anything.

longam · 03-09-10, 05:37 PM

I only have had one issue on Saturday afternoon, all other times work with no problem. I must be close to one of the AUTH servers, or my cable rocks!

Ducimus · 03-10-10, 01:36 AM

While subsim was down, i found these little gems i wanted to share:

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It was frightening and yet somehow awe-inspiring to watch them march off of this conceptual cliff with such steadfast confidence. It's like a menacing and Kafkaesque version of the Emperor's New Clothes where all of the people are screaming, "Dude, you are naked!" to the heedless king. The lemming comparison ceases to be adequate. Lemmings go over cliffs because they are oblivious. Ubisoft went over this cliff because they decided that going over a cliff was a now a core part of their business plan.

I struggled with this comic for a long time. I eventually realized I wouldn't be able to make fun of this in any traditional way because Ubisoft was already a joke.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/arti...ls-175-Ubisoft

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Three reasons Ubisoft's DRM is good

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Watch this starting at 3:32
Gabe Newell of valve gives his two cents on piracy, copy protection, and why its not a problem for valve. Ubisoft should take note of this.

All taht said, i think ill write my own review of the game. It may surprise you what i think of the game itself.

Paco · 03-10-10, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by razark

So what we have here is a bit of information that makes the game playable offline for legal owners, but does not allow pirates to play? Or did I completely miss the point?

If someone can clarify that, I would be grateful.

Hmmmm,

I can't give a guarantee that this works only for legal users.

But the UBI-servers do not work for legal users too

Kaleun_Endrass · 03-10-10, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

A screenshot of what i see everytime i try and load a saved game. Even one in port:

I see this DRM message alot too. If it pops up, the game won't repeat no matter how long I wait. First two times I hit the OK button resulting in dropping back to the menu screen. On the third time I checked my internet connection that was still good. I don't know if it's a problem with the response time of Ubi's servers that results in annoying DRM screens but each time I see this message I hit ESC and the game continues just normal

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I didn't test it with disconnecting my router or something but I noticed after 1h of play that my crappy (Vista-)WLAN dropped at any time during play again and I'm not sure I got the message and hit ESC but the game worked well 'till I decided to end it. I'll test this afternoon if this cute little ESC key works all the way I experienced it so far...

sofie_59 · 03-10-10, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaleun_Endrass

I see this DRM message alot too. If it pops up, the game won't repeat no matter how long I wait. First two times I hit the OK button resulting in dropping back to the menu screen. On the third time I checked my internet connection that was still good. I don't know if it's a problem with the response time of Ubi's servers that results in annoying DRM screens but each time I see this message I hit ESC and the game continues just normal

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I didn't test it with disconnecting my router or something but I noticed after 1h of play that my crappy (Vista-)WLAN dropped at any time during play again and I'm not sure I got the message and hit ESC but the game worked well 'till I decided to end it. I'll test this afternoon if this cute little ESC key works all the way I experienced it so far...

Good post!
And hope that hit ESC instead of OK is the way to go

YukonJack_AK · 03-10-10, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Watch this starting at 3:32
Gabe Newell of valve gives his two cents on piracy, copy protection, and why its not a problem for valve. Ubisoft should take note of this.

...And that is why Valve is EPIC

LISTEN UP UBISOFT! Take care of the customers, make games so damn good no-one will WANT to pirate them and forget this iron-curtain, gestapo crap DRM!

Drifter · 03-10-10, 06:25 AM

Ducimus, I have been playing without connecting to the server... oops.. I meant to say that I am having no server connection problems.

You have a new pm.

wingtip · 03-10-10, 11:43 AM

Ya know, for sh3 and 4 i just went out and bought it day one of release cause i love sub simulations, and enjoyed them thoroughly... For sh5 i decided to wait for a change as difficult as i knew that would be from all the drm discussions before it was released... Now a week or so after release i come in here to read some feedback and I am so dam glad I didn't put any money in ubi's pocket by purchasing sh5...

I could care less if there are tons of graphical bugs or other bugs but still allow you to play and know they will eventually get fixed... but when this drm connection window pops up as often as everyone is reporting and wont let you even play that's where i draw the line....

I can only hope that there is a majority of others like me that decided to wait and decided to not purchase this load of crap they are trying to shove down everyone's throat like obamas health care crap...

I found it hard to believe people were saying best buy and others were taking them back no questions asked... this is unheard of... once software is opened its tough s hit...its yours no matter how much you cry... companies just don't take back open software usually...

This all really sucks cause this means sh4 will probably be the last good sim to be produced for a lonnnng time....even if ubi notices the dismal sales and refunds they'll still introduce sh6 or other games with drm... Its friggin laughable but disappointing at the same time... As one of the other posters said, they just blatantly walked right over the edge of a cliff....I hope they fire the exec's that decided this drm crap would fly when it sank soon as it hit the water from commissioning lol

Maddog011 · 03-10-10, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Drifter

Ducimus, I have been playing without connecting to the server... oops.. I meant to say that I am having no server connection problems.

You have a new pm.

Would you mind, to share that information with us?
I mean how "playing without connecting to the server".

Seems you people are ignoring my posts.
Nice community here, we have.

robbo180265 · 03-10-10, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Maddog011

Would you mind, to share that information with us?
I mean how "playing without connecting to the server".

Seems you people are ignoring my posts.
Nice community here, we have.

I'm guessing that the kind of questions you were asking - could not have been answered without a risk of a banhammer.

So nobodies talking

Turm · 03-10-10, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaleun_Endrass

I see this DRM message alot too. If it pops up, the game won't repeat no matter how long I wait. First two times I hit the OK button resulting in dropping back to the menu screen. On the third time I checked my internet connection that was still good. I don't know if it's a problem with the response time of Ubi's servers that results in annoying DRM screens but each time I see this message I hit ESC and the game continues just normal

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I was about to post this solution as well, but see you already did. I think I mentioned it in the bugs & glitches thread the other day.

Happens a lot to me. 'Esc' always works

I think the CPU power involved in loading and initialising the game causes the Ubisoft launcher/monitor program to think your connection has dropped, when it's there all along. Same way that Windows often reports programs as "Not responding" just because they've hogged the CPU for several seconds.

Hitting 'Esc' clears the screen without triggering the "back to menu" function of the OK button. If your connection had dropped, the screen would probably pop back right away, but since your connection is alive it carries on without complaint.

03-10-10, 11:43 AM	#42
wingtip A-ganger Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 71 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Sorry ubi, not getting in my pockets this time.... Ya know, for sh3 and 4 i just went out and bought it day one of release cause i love sub simulations, and enjoyed them thoroughly... For sh5 i decided to wait for a change as difficult as i knew that would be from all the drm discussions before it was released... Now a week or so after release i come in here to read some feedback and I am so dam glad I didn't put any money in ubi's pocket by purchasing sh5... I could care less if there are tons of graphical bugs or other bugs but still allow you to play and know they will eventually get fixed... but when this drm connection window pops up as often as everyone is reporting and wont let you even play that's where i draw the line.... I can only hope that there is a majority of others like me that decided to wait and decided to not purchase this load of crap they are trying to shove down everyone's throat like obamas health care crap... I found it hard to believe people were saying best buy and others were taking them back no questions asked... this is unheard of... once software is opened its tough s hit...its yours no matter how much you cry... companies just don't take back open software usually... This all really sucks cause this means sh4 will probably be the last good sim to be produced for a lonnnng time....even if ubi notices the dismal sales and refunds they'll still introduce sh6 or other games with drm... Its friggin laughable but disappointing at the same time... As one of the other posters said, they just blatantly walked right over the edge of a cliff....I hope they fire the exec's that decided this drm crap would fly when it sank soon as it hit the water from commissioning lol

03-09-10, 05:26 PM	#33
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	In theory the instructions should apply to both equally, as the root problem is the same: The lack of connection to the OSP server prevents stuff from happening in the game, and with those instructions you can supposedly bypass the limit.

03-09-10, 05:37 PM	#35
longam Admiral Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,014 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	I only have had one issue on Saturday afternoon, all other times work with no problem. I must be close to one of the AUTH servers, or my cable rocks!

03-10-10, 06:25 AM	#41
Drifter Frogman Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 308 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Ducimus, I have been playing without connecting to the server... oops.. I meant to say that I am having no server connection problems. You have a new pm.