Republicans break tax pledge hours after proposing it.... - Page 2

August · 09-24-10, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by razark

No, it says Republicans, except for one, failed to vote for tax cuts, except for one.

Yeah but:

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UPDATE: House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH) defended the move, saying Republicans opposed the measure because it contained bailout money and other tax increases.

So was it really a tax cut bill or a tax increase bill? We'll see what the American voter thinks come November.

razark · 09-24-10, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Yeah but:

Ack. That's what I get for not actually reading the story.

August · 09-24-10, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by razark

Ack. That's what I get for not actually reading the story.

Or that update might not have been there when you read it...

Ducimus · 09-24-10, 03:51 PM

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tater · 09-24-10, 05:18 PM

Another example of a BS bill. Call it a tax cut bill, but they throw in pork, etc.

Course the dems have called welfare payments "tax cuts." Cut taxes on people already paying zero taxes so they pay negative taxes. That's a "tax cut."

Meanwhile, tax breaks for the "rich"—the only people that actually pay enough taxes to matter—that's "bad."

They need to balance the damn budget by cutting spending. On entitlements.

Bubblehead1980 · 09-24-10, 06:02 PM

I love watching Democrats and their supporters get desperate, really is funny.

Platapus · 09-24-10, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by August

So what you're saying is that just because just ONE Republican voted for a tax bill that means the RepublicanS broke their tax pledge?

You Democrats sure are sounding more and more desperate to deflect public attention from your upcoming November train wreck.

May I quote you the next time you make a generalization to make your point?

Aramike · 09-24-10, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

HR 5297 is a good bill. Small business lending has been stagnant, and anything that can help prime the pump to get credit flowing in the SBA space is money well spent. I don't have the chart in front of me, but SBA loan volume plummeted after the 90% guarantee expired a few months ago (SBA loans are normally 80% guaranteed by the SBA.) This bill will extend the 90% provision and increase max loan size.

Stop being so partisan and look at things more pragmatically.

Well said! (Not implying that I endorse the bill or anything)

Aramike · 09-24-10, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

May I quote you the next time you make a generalization to make your point?

Shouldn't a generalization involve something that is generally true?

In which case, one Republican voting for something is does not mean that Republicans in general are voting for it.

August · 09-24-10, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

May I quote you the next time you make a generalization to make your point?

Quote this: Calling a tax hike bill a tax cut bill didn't fool the republicans and it's not going to fool the voters.

Now if the ruling party were to put real small business tax break bill up for a vote i'd bet the gop would vote for it.

Zachstar · 09-25-10, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

I'll just make one last point and back out of this 'discussion' because I know it is pointless in that no one will change their minds.

At least the republicans present a plan and if you read it you will see it is very much NOT "buisness as usuall".

Yall enjoy your talking points now.

Ya so Stewart just made up how their talking points are almost to the word (Or in the minority leaders case EXACTLY the word AND speed of reading) of their old game?

Republicans confirming they want to go back to Bush era policies. If that isnt a dream come true for dems needing campaign material I dont know what is!

Zachstar · 09-25-10, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Quote this: Calling a tax hike bill a tax cut bill didn't fool the republicans and it's not going to fool the voters.

Now if the ruling party were to put real small business tax break bill up for a vote i'd bet the gop would vote for it.

They GOP voted against Tax cuts for small biz plain and simple. Spin all you want but that was the major effect.

tater · 09-25-10, 03:21 PM

I'm not exactly sure how the government lending money it doesn't have (borrow money to lend it?) is fiscally responsible.

Tax cuts for business? A good idea.

Spending money out of pocket (via "community" banks (you know, the kind that are NOT "too big to fail")) is entirely different, particularly in the current climate.

Note that "community" gets used by the current admin in the US pretty much the same way that "people's" gets used in places like the PRC or the CCCP (when it existed). LOL.

Aramike · 09-25-10, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar

They GOP voted against Tax cuts for small biz plain and simple. Spin all you want but that was the major effect.

Umm, no, that was just the effect that you're focused on. The only one engaged in spin here is you.

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tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I'm not exactly sure how the government lending money it doesn't have (borrow money to lend it?) is fiscally responsible. Tax cuts for business? A good idea. Spending money out of pocket (via "community" banks (you know, the kind that are NOT "too big to fail")) is entirely different, particularly in the current climate. Note that "community" gets used by the current admin in the US pretty much the same way that "people's" gets used in places like the PRC or the CCCP (when it existed). LOL. Last edited by tater; 09-25-10 at 05:26 PM.

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Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	American Politics The greatest show on earth.

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tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Another example of a BS bill. Call it a tax cut bill, but they throw in pork, etc. Course the dems have called welfare payments "tax cuts." Cut taxes on people already paying zero taxes so they pay negative taxes. That's a "tax cut." Meanwhile, tax breaks for the "rich"—the only people that actually pay enough taxes to matter—that's "bad." They need to balance the damn budget by cutting spending. On entitlements.

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Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,100 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	I love watching Democrats and their supporters get desperate, really is funny.