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Old 08-26-09, 12:41 PM   #16
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....besides, opinions are like ar$eholes, everybody has one
And they usually stink.

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Old 08-26-09, 12:49 PM   #17
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Old 08-26-09, 01:35 PM   #18
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Your alright GR ... I don't care what Obama said about your posts

Just consider this as a message board that others visit and read your thoughts.
The thoughts that you allow us to have are the ones you share with us.

After a period of time we know which way you lean and we know how to flow with or against the thoughts.

Many toxic threads here for sure, but just chose your arena better.

Don't give up your passion which is basically your soul ... just learn to flow.

We still care what you think ... how could we debate each other if we didn't know what you think?

So reconsider your flight plan and make your final approach.

Have a safe landing
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Old 08-26-09, 02:29 PM   #19
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While I agree that nobodys political opinions on the forum have been changed, I find that debating them here does sharpen my arguments in face to face discussions.
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Old 08-26-09, 04:27 PM   #20
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While I agree that nobodys political opinions on the forum have been changed, I find that debating them here does sharpen my arguments in face to face discussions.

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Old 08-26-09, 04:48 PM   #21
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Your alright GR ... I don't care what Obama said about your posts

Just consider this as a message board that others visit and read your thoughts.
The thoughts that you allow us to have are the ones you share with us.

After a period of time we know which way you lean and we know how to flow with or against the thoughts.

Many toxic threads here for sure, but just chose your arena better.

Don't give up your passion which is basically your soul ... just learn to flow.

We still care what you think ... how could we debate each other if we didn't know what you think?

So reconsider your flight plan and make your final approach.

Have a safe landing
Well as i stated, i will no longer make posts of any drawn out nature in politically charged threads here at subsmim. (at the office, or the bar is a different matter)

not because i dont have an opinion

not because it may or may not be a "losing argument"

but, because i can get very "stirred" with certain political discussions sometimes, and i consider everyone here to be a friend... i dont want to say something that would either A. damage a friendship or B. jeopardize my membership. (especially B )
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Old 08-26-09, 07:22 PM   #22
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This is the reason I don't usually post or even read most posts in the "General" area. I'm VERY liberal and there's only so much "Pro-Conservative" and "Liberal" bashing that I can take before it annoys me and considering the fact that it seems that the majority of the people here are hardline conservatives, I'll never be able to post an opinion on anything political without getting dogpiled by passionate conservatives (and nomatter WHAT evidence I would post supporting my arguments would never convince them to change their opinions anyway)
I'm really easy going, respect other people's opinions, and don't usually block anyone but I've actually blocked certain individuals here because of their constant anti-liberal, and anti-aithieism posts.
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Old 08-26-09, 08:53 PM   #23
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This is the reason I don't usually post or even read most posts in the "General" area. I'm VERY liberal and there's only so much "Pro-Conservative" and "Liberal" bashing that I can take before it annoys me and considering the fact that it seems that the majority of the people here are hardline conservatives, I'll never be able to post an opinion on anything political without getting dogpiled by passionate conservatives (and nomatter WHAT evidence I would post supporting my arguments would never convince them to change their opinions anyway)
I'm really easy going, respect other people's opinions, and don't usually block anyone but I've actually blocked certain individuals here because of their constant anti-liberal, and anti-aithieism posts.
We are the persecuted minority here, but you just have to let it roll of your back. Besides, if you let it turn into a conservative echo chamber, they get complacent. You gotta throw something in there to jog their critical thinking skills.
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Old 08-27-09, 06:13 AM   #24
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We are the persecuted minority here, but you just have to let it roll of your back. Besides, if you let it turn into a conservative echo chamber, they get complacent. You gotta throw something in there to jog their critical thinking skills.
This is very interesting to me. From what I gather from certain elements of the right-leaning crowd, they feel that they are the persecuted minority. As someone who has no real allegiance to right or left, it seems that the sides are balanced in terms of numbers. From what I have seen, it is usually the same 3-5 people on the right vs. the same 3-5 on the left.
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This is very interesting to me. From what I gather from certain elements of the right-leaning crowd, they feel that they are the persecuted minority. As someone who has no real allegiance to right or left, it seems that the sides are balanced in terms of numbers. From what I have seen, it is usually the same 3-5 people on the right vs. the same 3-5 on the left.
Shhh, he's going for the sympathy vote!
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Old 08-27-09, 09:41 AM   #26
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Don't know if I agree with that. In order to form an intelligent opinion you need to open your mind to all points of view. I've changed my mind on issues because of things I read, having other people point out things I didn't think of. I wouldn't say a forum is a good place to gather facts, but it could point you in the right direction to get the information you need.

"A closed mind gathers no intelligence"

I think debate is healthy. A forum is just a convenient place to do it. However, still trying to figure out what taxes, health care, and religion have to do with submarines......
Agreed 100%
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Old 08-27-09, 11:15 AM   #27
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Shhh, he's going for the sympathy vote!
No, no, I was playing the victim card.
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