The most violent countries - Europe - Think the USA has the most violent crimes?

[Torplexed]

I think Golden Rivet meant blackmail.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

I think Golden Rivet meant blackmail.

hahahahahaha

there you go... corrected

i guess i didnt realize it was spelled that way

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

See what happens when Jim retires from the force. Get back to the beat Jim.

LOL

I'm now classed officially as a 'pensioner'....someone in receipt of a pension, but not the type usually awarded to a recognised person of pensionable age (in state pension terms)

Originally Posted by Letum

Murder/manslaughter statistics are a much better way of comparing
countries as the definition of killing is much more universal.

Right on the money Letum

Come on Sub...lets be having you

[Morts]

flame bait

Originally Posted by Letum

It's idiocy to attempt to compare violent crime statistics.
Different countries count violent crime in very different ways, record it in
different ways and publish it in different ways.

One country may count threatening behavior as a violent crime, another
may not. There is no standard.
Further more, in some countries one does not go to the police if one is
punched outside a bar, whilst in other countries one does. Countries
with a violent culture do not police violent crime as much.

Murder/manslaughter statistics are a much better way of comparing
countries as the definition of killing is much more universal.

I see what you mean.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...ar/8021185.stm

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Morts

flame bait

What else did you expect?

[SUBMAN1]

The reason for the flame bait is to turn the thread into what it is not.

All I see above is someone throwing out the source of the article, not the source of the information as the reason to discount it. The source of the information is not the DailyMail.

So I'm waiting for someone to disprove the information.

BTW, the definition of violent crime is even across the EU and America. So while the same thing may not apply for an undeveloped country, it does for all others.

So, who is the first to disprove this? Let me guess, NONE OF YOU CAN!

-S

PS. Can we get back on track? Or do we have to start a brand new thread on the subject?

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

BTW, the definition of violent crime is even across the EU and America. So while the same thing may not apply for an undeveloped country, it does for all others.

How about you prove that statement first.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

How about you prove that statement first.

Sorry. No need to. I asked for you to prove mine first. Read the report if you feel like seeing what countries define what as violent.

-S

[Biggles]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I wonder if this has anything to do with the lack of guns over there? 100% chance.

You are 100% sure this would be the reason? Would you please give us proof/information that supports your view in this matter?

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

How about you prove that statement first.

its fact.

not all nations have the same laws.

Assault - wherein you threaten the use of violence

Battery - wherein you USE violence

they both might be considered a violent crime in Country "A"

but in country "B" - assault might not be considered a "violent crime" by their legal definitions.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

its fact.

not all nations have the same laws.

Assault - wherein you threaten the use of violence

Battery - wherein you USE violence

they both might be considered a violent crime in Country "A"

but in country "B" - assault might not be considered a "violent crime" by their legal definitions.

Those are the definitions used in the USA, though most people assume assault is physically hurting that person. All of the EU as far as I understand have the same definition.

-S

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Sorry. No need to. I asked for you to prove mine first. Read the report if you feel like seeing what countries define what as violent.

-S

You're asking other people to disprove your empty statements? How about you prove the US isn't the most violent western industrialised nation.

[Biggles]

Let's see what wikipedia says about the matter of murder rates:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._homicide_rate

["Homicide rates per 100,000 population by region and subregion, 2004"[

North America, 6.5 (rate)

Europe, 5.4 (rate)

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

You're asking other people to disprove your empty statements? How about you prove the US isn't the most violent western industrialised nation.

Join the discussion about it instead of making misleading accusations. Its called - being constructive.

-S