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SUBMAN1 07-12-09 02:46 AM

The most violent countries - Europe - Think the USA has the most violent crimes?
 
Think again. The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents. I wonder if this has anything to do with the lack of guns over there? :D 100% chance.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/...77_468x636.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...frica-U-S.html

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Stealhead 07-12-09 03:17 AM

Hmmm. What are they considering a viloent crime? Could say assult be a viloent crime?Like simply getting punched that is violent but over all not to0 bad. Something seems off about the other nations look at Luxemburgthe 2001 population was 439,539 something seems off here but brit media is well known to be very tabloidy so i dont think you can trsut this chart I am sure that they went in a boosted the numbers here.

Also western europe is suffering from an influx of illegal arms(being used by crimnals) this is something what his name should comment on jimbuna he says he is a police man and he is from England.

Why in the hell are they counting South Africa and Canada? Two nations that are not even in the same part of the globe and not member of the EU.

I think there are several 3rd world nations that have appaling violent crime rates when you consider that the US has what 300 million folks in it ours is not very high.

Tribesman 07-12-09 03:35 AM

Quote:

Think again
Yeah right , the Daily Mail.

Rilder 07-12-09 03:40 AM

Yeah I'm pretty sure the daily mail is about as factual as the history channel. :rotfl:

Tribesman 07-12-09 03:54 AM

In this world there are lies, damn lies and statistics...then there are Daily Mail statistics

XabbaRus 07-12-09 04:32 AM

Hmm you quote from the Daily Fail.....

You do know that that newspaper is two steps to the left of the BNP?

This is a newspaper whose sole aim is to misread and mispublish statistics and facts in order to try and shock people into demanding the government change the UK back to the 1950's.

They moan how bad the UK is but ironically it is with their crap articles and reporting that the UK looks worse than it actually is.

antikristuseke 07-12-09 06:52 AM

Next time, quote Sunday Sports...

Takeda Shingen 07-12-09 07:55 AM

The Daily Mail makes Fox News look like a hippy commune. I wouldn't be so quick to cite them.

Jimbuna 07-12-09 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1132721)
Yeah right , the Daily Mail.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1132727)
In this world there are lies, damn lies and statistics...then there are Daily Mail statistics

Quote:

Originally Posted by antikristuseke (Post 1132769)
Next time, quote Sunday Sports...

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1132791)
The Daily Mail makes Fox News look like a hippy commune. I wouldn't be so quick to cite them.

ROFLMAO :rotfl:Great comments guys :yeah:

If you believe the above statistics then your obviously aware every Police Officer in England is heavily armed, carrying more firepower than your average Police Officer abroad. :doh:

I'd be far more interested in seeing figures from a reputable source plus another set mapping out the number of deaths as a result of violent crime from said countries. :hmmm:

Not one of your better posts Sub but one worthy of invoking debate which is what I suspect is/was your intention :03:

AVGWarhawk 07-12-09 08:31 AM

See what happens when Jim retires from the force. :down: Get back to the beat Jim.:nope:

Letum 07-12-09 09:23 AM

It's idiocy to attempt to compare violent crime statistics.
Different countries count violent crime in very different ways, record it in
different ways and publish it in different ways.

One country may count threatening behavior as a violent crime, another
may not. There is no standard.
Further more, in some countries one does not go to the police if one is
punched outside a bar, whilst in other countries one does. Countries
with a violent culture do not police violent crime as much.

Murder/manslaughter statistics are a much better way of comparing
countries as the definition of killing is much more universal.

GoldenRivet 07-12-09 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 1132718)
Hmmm. What are they considering a viloent crime? Could say assult be a viloent crime?

the legal definition of "violent crime" is: any crime in which the offender either uses, or threatens to use violence against the victim(s) so yes "assault" (the threat of the use of violence) is a violent crime.

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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 1132718)
Like simply getting punched that is violent but over all not to0 bad.

Getting punched in the face (or any other part of your body) also referred to as "Battery" in many jurisdictions is considered a "violent crime"... yes you are right... being punched in the face is not too bad - as opposed to being stabbed in the scrotum... its all relative, violent crime by definition is violent crime no matter what the offense may be so long as there is the use or threat of use of violence / bodily harm.

one could argue... "is not all crime violent?"

technically speaking... no.

for example, blackmail is a crime, its evil... but not considered "violent" by any sense of the definition as it pertains to law.

for example "I know your banging your secretary and i have video, give me $3,000 per month out of the company finances or ill tell your wife and show her the film?"

nobody has technically threatened physical injury or bodily harm to the "victim" therefore this is not a violent crime.

as for why the south africa and canada stats were included - i dont really know.

but you can be sure that almost every form of statistical media out there is skewed to favor the author's viewpoint.

im sure that from a relative standpoint, the crime rate in all civilized nations of the world is pretty much the same as far as ratio of criminal activity per 100,000 people is concerned - at least if the ratio is reduced to the lowest common denominator im sure anyone would find that the crime rate expressed in such a format would yield some very similar numbers.

antikristuseke 07-12-09 10:24 AM

Murder statistics per capita seem to differ wildly.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ers-per-capita

GoldenRivet 07-12-09 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke (Post 1132848)
Murder statistics per capita seem to differ wildly.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ers-per-capita

yep... i would expect to see many in one place and few in another... however, globally speaking... the ratio of violent crime per 100,000 people would be relatively universal i would think.

sure, there will be a few places that really screw up the curve, but for the most part - fairly universal ratios i would guess.

OneToughHerring 07-12-09 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1132844)
for example, black male is a crime, its evil... but not considered "violent" by any sense of the definition as it pertains to law.

Eh...wat?


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