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Old 08-18-08, 11:23 AM   #16
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How is this not surprising:

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A PETA spokesman once said that, "Even if a cure for AIDS came from animal experimentation, we'd be against it". PETA publicly claims to be against violence, but the group has long been accused of channeling funds and information to groups like the ALF.
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Old 08-18-08, 11:28 AM   #17
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And this attack is a terrorist attack.. I have zero tolerance for these types of cowardly attacks in the name of environmentalism.. They need to be charged and punished to the full extent of the law..
Tolerance towards anything is one's own but I would certainly agree with those who perpetrate these crimes should be punished.

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People die when this happens, and these people think that is a message to the rest. Its crazy.
I've never understood the need for violence in situations like this. Spiking trees, fire-bombing, threatening people doesn't get the point across very well IMO. It does however, create a bias in the public in general and less tolerance I think. Certainly doesn't get my sympathy for their cause when they act like murderers...
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Old 08-18-08, 11:53 AM   #18
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How is this not surprising:

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A PETA spokesman once said that, "Even if a cure for AIDS came from animal experimentation, we'd be against it". PETA publicly claims to be against violence, but the group has long been accused of channeling funds and information to groups like the ALF.
PETA is insane and everyone sane enough to do a bit of research knows this..

But not all environmentalists have a subscription to PETA weekly or Greenpeace daily or Sea Shepherd rammly

The outrage in the environmentalism community about these so called "Activists" is large.. As an environmentalist I would rather die than donate to Sea Shepherd at gunpoint for instance..
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Old 08-18-08, 12:04 PM   #19
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But not all environmentalists have a subscription to PETA weekly or Greenpeace daily or Sea Shepherd rammly
I agree, I think what is in question here is the term environmentalist, who it applies to, and to what extent.

In any case, these forum threads are getting a little to heated, with the same small cast jumping in the ring, fists up. What I want to suggest is think before you post. Look for a chance to agree and discuss the things you disagree on with tact and civility. People are about to get brigged around here :hmm:
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Old 08-18-08, 12:06 PM   #20
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Look for a chance to agree? Isn't that called patronizing?
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Old 08-18-08, 12:27 PM   #21
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OK, fists are up.



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Old 08-18-08, 12:36 PM   #22
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OK, fists are up.



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Old 08-18-08, 05:19 PM   #23
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Fortunately we dont have too much of it going on down here...

Unfortunately the Greens have their own political party. Led by a man about whom I could enlighten a lot of people, but would no doubt be sued for slander.

Anyways, the greens are social fruitcakes, wanting everyone in sydney to ride a bike to work (yeh, right). But, unfortunately, they're in bed with the ALP, who are in govt.

As long as they stay away from the *really* nasty stuff like firebombings, etc, i can put up with the odd tree-spiking or human chain. Besides, most of the people interviewed on the news discredit themselves anyways!:rotfl:
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