So which way do you lean? - Page 11

01-25-10, 01:38 PM

I wonder how Danger From The Deep is coming along?

Brag · 01-25-10, 02:08 PM

I voted no opinion. I will buy the game and see for myself. Knowing the work the Devs do, I think it will be a worthwhile investment. I'm sure after devloping SH3, which had brilliant ideas. SH 4, which I only heard had major deficisiences, and studying GWX, the Devs have produced a worthwhile investment.

I have saved enough to get a new computer and get back into the fray.

HundertzehnGustav · 01-25-10, 02:11 PM

Which way do you lean in regards to SHV?

I lean forward, slowly moving one foot backwards.
Then i lean back, shoving my foot up some suit's arse!
enough!

i'm outtahere.

onelifecrisis · 01-25-10, 03:16 PM

I've seen a few people mentioning a lack of dynamic shadows, but I've seen several SH5 videos clearly showing dynamic shadows on the crew and even being cast from the ships onto the sea - something I wanted ages ago - so, what's with the complaints?

On topic: I voted no opinion, cos I've not played the game.

Julhelm · 01-25-10, 03:21 PM

I think the game sounds like it will have vastly superior gameplay compared to SH3/4. I'll be buying it.

Brag · 01-25-10, 04:02 PM

After the following statement just made by Elenaiba I'm leaning waaaay in favor.

Elenaiba's statement:

FREE ROAMING IS IN!!!!!

And it will stay in. You may not follow orders and if you sink ships this will have an effect in your area and may affect the results of your patrol.

oscar19681 · 01-25-10, 04:21 PM

I,m buying it definitly! I just dont understand some people on the forum keep on nagging about. I mean the VIIC is the coolest u-boat anyway and i,m sure the other u-boats and the rest of the campaign will find there way into sh-5.

ryanglavin · 01-25-10, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

@carotio...

Type VII boats did in fact operate in American Waters for Operation Drumbeat.

several of them in fact.

Well, to be correct, a ton of them did. most of the second and third wave (if i recall) were type ViiC's refueling from milch cows on the return trip.

ryanglavin · 01-25-10, 05:19 PM

And Hell, I'll just throw something out.
If none of us have played the game yet, how do we know if we like it or not? I just like to point out basic facts... don't judge a book by its cover.

01-25-10, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanglavin

Well, to be correct, a ton of them did. most of the second and third wave (if i recall) were type ViiC's refueling from milch cows on the return trip.

Type VIIs did operate off the US East Coast.
Type VIIs did NOT paticipate in Operation Drumbeat.

Drumbeat was ONLY the first wave of boats sent following the Declaration of War.

5 U-boats participated in Drumbeat, ALL of which were Type IXBs and IXCs.
Sorry. No Type VIIs in the lot.

Link:
http://uboat.net/ops/drumbeat.htm

Frederf · 01-27-10, 02:24 AM

I'm not so upset about the TypeVII and cut off date. I can have tons of fun in a limited selection of submarine(s) and years... IF IT'S WELL DONE.

Obviously, the devs would love to model all boats for all years but they can't do it within time/budget constraints. They even said in the Jan 2010 interview "Yeah late war had all these crazy technologies that we NEVER did right in SH3." They basically admitted that since they couldn't do the late war right they weren't going to do it at all.

What makes me pessimistic is how the devs have left huge flaws in SH3, SH4, and undoubtedly SH5 upcoming that either take tremendous modder effort or are impossible to mod-fix. What about the Jap DDs in SH4 that would magically turn on their sonar when you might be in position instead of historically leaving it on all the time or only turning it on when they suspected something there? Yeah, that's a pretty big hole in their sensor and AI behavior code. What about the aircraft that magically appear from a dice roll and happen to make a perfect round trip over your sub? The TDC never operated like it was suppose to and the captain had only the option to play a 1-man submarine or use arcade mode.

Letum · 01-27-10, 02:29 AM

ed: I'm an idiot.

karamazovnew · 01-27-10, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snestorm

I wonder how Danger From The Deep is coming along?

I have a feeling they'll soon increase their community.

John W. Hamm · 01-27-10, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

fair enough,

but i dont want to see you playing it this time next year when the smash hit supermods are released.

At the rate things are looking it does not look like any of the modders will be playing it to make a super mod for it.

View Poll Results: Which way do you lean in regards to SHV
Mostly positive opinion of SHV	118	51.98%
Mostly negative opinion of SHV	72	31.72%
I have no opinion on SHV either way	37	16.30%
Voters: 227. You may not vote on this poll

01-25-10, 02:08 PM	#152
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I voted no opinion. I will buy the game and see for myself. Knowing the work the Devs do, I think it will be a worthwhile investment. I'm sure after devloping SH3, which had brilliant ideas. SH 4, which I only heard had major deficisiences, and studying GWX, the Devs have produced a worthwhile investment. I have saved enough to get a new computer and get back into the fray. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

01-25-10, 02:11 PM	#153
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Which way do you lean in regards to SHV? I lean forward, slowly moving one foot backwards. Then i lean back, shoving my foot up some suit's arse! enough! i'm outtahere. __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

01-25-10, 04:02 PM	#156
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	After the following statement just made by Elenaiba I'm leaning waaaay in favor. Elenaiba's statement: FREE ROAMING IS IN!!!!! And it will stay in. You may not follow orders and if you sink ships this will have an effect in your area and may affect the results of your patrol. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

01-25-10, 04:21 PM	#157
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	I,m buying it definitly! I just dont understand some people on the forum keep on nagging about. I mean the VIIC is the coolest u-boat anyway and i,m sure the other u-boats and the rest of the campaign will find there way into sh-5. __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

01-25-10, 01:38 PM	#151
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I wonder how Danger From The Deep is coming along?

01-25-10, 03:16 PM	#154
onelifecrisis Maverick Modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England Posts: 3,895 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 3	I've seen a few people mentioning a lack of dynamic shadows, but I've seen several SH5 videos clearly showing dynamic shadows on the crew and even being cast from the ships onto the sea - something I wanted ages ago - so, what's with the complaints? On topic: I voted no opinion, cos I've not played the game.

01-25-10, 03:21 PM	#155
Julhelm Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Icy North Posts: 693 Downloads: 189 Uploads: 0	I think the game sounds like it will have vastly superior gameplay compared to SH3/4. I'll be buying it.

01-25-10, 05:19 PM	#159
ryanglavin Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Evading that Hunter/Killer Group on my Tail Posts: 584 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	And Hell, I'll just throw something out. If none of us have played the game yet, how do we know if we like it or not? I just like to point out basic facts... don't judge a book by its cover.

01-27-10, 02:24 AM	#161
Frederf Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 665 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 1	I'm not so upset about the TypeVII and cut off date. I can have tons of fun in a limited selection of submarine(s) and years... IF IT'S WELL DONE. Obviously, the devs would love to model all boats for all years but they can't do it within time/budget constraints. They even said in the Jan 2010 interview "Yeah late war had all these crazy technologies that we NEVER did right in SH3." They basically admitted that since they couldn't do the late war right they weren't going to do it at all. What makes me pessimistic is how the devs have left huge flaws in SH3, SH4, and undoubtedly SH5 upcoming that either take tremendous modder effort or are impossible to mod-fix. What about the Jap DDs in SH4 that would magically turn on their sonar when you might be in position instead of historically leaving it on all the time or only turning it on when they suspected something there? Yeah, that's a pretty big hole in their sensor and AI behavior code. What about the aircraft that magically appear from a dice roll and happen to make a perfect round trip over your sub? The TDC never operated like it was suppose to and the captain had only the option to play a 1-man submarine or use arcade mode.

01-27-10, 02:29 AM	#162
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	ed: I'm an idiot. __________________