So which way do you lean?

[GoldenRivet]

@carotio...

Type VII boats did in fact operate in American Waters for Operation Drumbeat.

several of them in fact.

[Carotio]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

@carotio...

Type VII boats did in fact operate in American Waters for Operation Drumbeat.

several of them in fact.

Maybe, but still it's the IX boats who comes into mind for the long-range patrols, which American waters are...

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

@carotio...

Type VII boats did in fact operate in American Waters for Operation Drumbeat.

several of them in fact.

Sorry.
Operation Drumbeat: 5 boats.
U66 IXC
U109 IXB
U123 IXB
U125 IXC
U130 IXC

Not a VII in the lot.

[Reece]

I have decided I'm leaning toward the negative side of SHV

[Ducimus]

http://www.uboat.net/ops/drumbeat.htm

This may surprise many of you but Operation Drumbeat really was just the inital wave of 5 large U-boats, Paukenschlag was meant to be a fast and surprise attack on the eastern seaboard of the US, and it succeeded as such. Then there were several other "waves" of U-boats that went into American waters but those don't really count as Drumbeaters.

[Task Force]

yea, im gonna have to go with reece with this one... SH5 dosent look to be as good as it could have been, I feel that it will be abit like most games, fun for acouple of times, but loose its fun after awhile, AKA, wont be as big of a Wow, whats gonna happen feeling as in SH3...

[conus00]

I'm afraid I'm with Reece on this one: sure SHV will have bunch of steps forward but overall, compared to SH3, it's just huge leap BACK!

I will probably buy it anyway but am I happy about it? Definitely no!

[THE_MASK]

You are trying to compare apples with oranges . Its a new direction by the looks of it . Its obviously not a simulation like SH3/4 . Its a first person history lesson .

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

Sorry.
Operation Drumbeat: 5 boats.
U66 IXC
U109 IXB
U123 IXB
U125 IXC
U130 IXC

Not a VII in the lot.

not so fast

Operation Drum Beat lasted from January of 1942 until about August of that year when it was abandoned.

During that time many boats of various types were deployed to the US Coastal waters.

The 5 boats you name did not encompass the ENTIRE operation... they were simply the front line boats sent in January and February.

some of the other boats which were deployed for example were...

U-404 (VIIC)
U-333 (VIIC)
U-571 (VIIC)
U-552 (VIIC)

and numerous other VII u-boats were deployed to the area of operations outlined in Operation Drum Beat off the United States Eastern Coast

Some VII u-boat attacks took place within sight of shore!

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

not so fast

Operation Drum Beat lasted from January of 1942 until about August of that year when it was abandoned.

During that time many boats of various types were deployed to the US Coastal waters.

The 5 boats you name did not encompass the ENTIRE operation... they were simply the front line boats sent in January and February.

some of the other boats which were deployed for example were...

U-404 (VIIC)
U-333 (VIIC)
U-571 (VIIC)
U-552 (VIIC)

and numerous other VII u-boats were deployed to the area of operations outlined in Operation Drum Beat off the United States Eastern Coast

Some VII u-boat attacks took place within sight of shore!

Many Type VIIs were deployed to the US East Coast succesfuly, and one even entered the Gulf Of Mexico, but Operation Drumbeat was only the First Wave (The Surprise Element).

[GoldenRivet]

I see.

thought you were indicating that VIIs never went to America.

Its unfortunate that IX boats are not included in the initial release.

I see no reason to assume they never will be added either as a mod pack, downloadable content, or as an add on from ubisoft.

i still think that IX boats not being included is a rather silly reason to disown the franchise altogether.

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

i still think that IX boats not being included is a rather silly reason to disown the franchise altogether.

I am a confessed IXaholic.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

I am a confessed IXaholic.

Sadly their are no meetings for your condition

I am with you on one point and against you on another Snestorm...

1. I think it was a total mistake on Ubi's part to not at least include the IX series boats. I dont understand why this decision was made... however i am but a lowly outsider.

2. I really think that SHV deserves a chance, even by the guys with raging hardons for the IX boats.

[Carotio]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

I am a confessed IXaholic.

i'm one of those too. Now we only need the rest of us Anynymous IXaholics to gather up to form a circle to stand up and say: I'm an IXaholic too, and everybody will clap their hands in acknowledgemeant of the courage of admitting it.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

Many Type VIIs were deployed to the US East Coast succesfuly, and one even entered the Gulf Of Mexico, but Operation Drumbeat was only the First Wave (The Surprise Element).

Good point! I tend to think of all US Coastal ops as Operation Drumbeat.

Originally Posted by Carotio

i'm one of those too. Now we only need the rest of us Anynymous IXaholics to gather up to form a circle to stand up and say: I'm an IXaholic too, and everybody will clap their hands in acknowledgemeant of the courage of admitting it.

I'm an IXaholic, it's been 27 days since my last patrol. I smile because I am happy and what makes me happy is more torpedoes to fire and more range to hunt.