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Old 11-22-08, 12:31 AM   #16
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It's so blatantly obvious that they edited out anyone who actually answered the questions properly. That video is a load of Right Wing crap designed to say that all Obama supporters were idiots who can't wipe their own ass.
I have to agree there. I never like it when the Brits do that trick to try and prove Americans are stupid but the Zogby poll on the other hand is illluminating. It also matches the impression i've gotten from the young people i've talked to.
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Old 11-22-08, 12:38 AM   #17
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These Obama voters are clueless dolts who don't even understand the impacts of their vote, and how it will affect them.
It's so blatantly obvious that they edited out anyone who actually answered the questions properly. That video is a load of Right Wing crap designed to say that all Obama supporters were idiots who can't wipe their own ass. I'm sorry. But I don't see this video as a truthful documentary, especially considering who sponsored it. The filmmaker is a staunch conservative supporter and therefore everything he does is going to have that slant. I wouldn't trust a word from this stuped video any more than I'd trust hearing statistics from Rush Limabaug.
It was certainly difficult to judge the true nature of Obama supporters based on the random ones selected for this video ... So Zogby (A Democrat) and his people were commissioned to conduct a telephone poll to ask a greater number of Obama supporters the very same questions asked of the people in the video. So I do agree with August that we should always take a video with a grain of salt. However, in this case, Zogby obtained a much larger sample for us which affords it credibility. Republicans have tried to fund a reciprocal poll for Republican voters and Zogby said he wouldn't do it. Not everyone who supported Obama are lost. Some Obama voters actually heard the warped message of "spreading the wealth" and liked it. Although they are not informed enough to understand the negative impact of that on an economy like ours. But it's apparent that there are a vast amount of uninformed people who went out and voted for this guy because of his image, rather than substance. I saw it throughout the election myself as these voters didn't even ask Obama to clarify his policies of "change". It looks like many Obama voters didn't know what they were voting for at all. How about these results from Zogby asking Dems about their candidate:

57.4% of Obama voters could not correctly say which party controls congress. 82.6% of Obama voters could not correctly say that Barack Obama won his first election by getting opponents kicked off the ballot 88.4% of Obama voters could not correctly say that Obama said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket. 56.1% of Obama voters didn't know that Obama started his political career at the home of Bill Ayers, an unrepentant terrorist.

This shows massive gross ignorance on the part of these people. Now you have a measure of a statistically larger sample of some of the voters who went to the polls on Election Day awash in Obama hero worship.

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Old 11-22-08, 12:40 AM   #18
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It's so blatantly obvious that they edited out anyone who actually answered the questions properly. That video is a load of Right Wing crap designed to say that all Obama supporters were idiots who can't wipe their own ass.
I have to agree there. I never like it when the Brits do that trick to try and prove Americans are stupid but the Zogby poll on the other hand is illluminating. It also matches the impression i've gotten from the young people i've talked to.
I second that. I am leary of anything on TV, why; editing. They can show whatever they want. as for BO voters, (not in the video, just regular news) when the are pushed about why they like BO, they just give the hope/change answer. My dad voted for BO (and for the dumbest reason). I told him to "remember who YOU voted for on April 15th", when you get the checkbook out.
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Old 11-22-08, 01:44 AM   #19
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What I believe is that the SYSTEM is corrupted and no longer functioning and unless you make a serious changes to the system, who is an US president does not really matter. On the other hand I do have a problem with your statement about Obama's voters: You are generalizing without having any facts on hand. IMHO that's short-sighted and wrong.
Actually this is a supported poll with a large statistical sample. It is not generalizing as it's a statistical model where they got the info. And it's frightening. Actually, the facts do support the premise.

On your other stuff, the system is a good system. The problem is that it is filled with corrupt individuals. Until we bring back the concept of accountability, it will be that way.
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I just want to know what Sarah Palin is wearing today. :p
I betcha that underneath her clothes, she's naked (just like the rest of us):rotfl:
Oh man that's hot. Say that again but slower...
...and the red satin bra/panty set, cost $25,000
Someone really needs to convince Sarah palin to pose in playboy/penthouse/ just post nudie pics of herself on the web
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I just want to know what Sarah Palin is wearing today. :p
I betcha that underneath her clothes, she's naked (just like the rest of us):rotfl:
I'm sure she is naked like the rest of us but I certainly do not care what you look like under your cloths :rotfl: So, what are you wearing today DT :rotfl: :hmm:
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I just want to know what Sarah Palin is wearing today. :p
I betcha that underneath her clothes, she's naked (just like the rest of us):rotfl:
I'm sure she is naked like the rest of us but I certainly do not care what you look like under your cloths :rotfl: So, what are you wearing today DT :rotfl: :hmm:
Certainly not a $25,000 bra and panties set:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
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I just want to know what Sarah Palin is wearing today. :p
I betcha that underneath her clothes, she's naked (just like the rest of us):rotfl:
I'm sure she is naked like the rest of us but I certainly do not care what you look like under your cloths :rotfl: So, what are you wearing today DT :rotfl: :hmm:
Certainly not a $25,000 bra and panties set:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
$25 set ?????
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I betcha that underneath her clothes, she's naked (just like the rest of us):rotfl:
I'm sure she is naked like the rest of us but I certainly do not care what you look like under your cloths :rotfl: So, what are you wearing today DT :rotfl: :hmm:
Certainly not a $25,000 bra and panties set:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
$25 set ?????

Yeah, $25 set. Been a rough week.
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What I believe is that the SYSTEM is corrupted and no longer functioning and unless you make a serious changes to the system, who is an US president does not really matter. On the other hand I do have a problem with your statement about Obama's voters: You are generalizing without having any facts on hand. IMHO that's short-sighted and wrong.
Actually this is a supported poll with a large statistical sample. It is not generalizing as it's a statistical model where they got the info. And it's frightening. Actually, the facts do support the premise.

On your other stuff, the system is a good system. The problem is that it is filled with corrupt individuals. Until we bring back the concept of accountability, it will be that way.
Get over it Sea Demon, Obama is your chief for the next four years.<- period.

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What I believe is that the SYSTEM is corrupted and no longer functioning and unless you make a serious changes to the system, who is an US president does not really matter. On the other hand I do have a problem with your statement about Obama's voters: You are generalizing without having any facts on hand. IMHO that's short-sighted and wrong.
Actually this is a supported poll with a large statistical sample. It is not generalizing as it's a statistical model where they got the info. And it's frightening. Actually, the facts do support the premise.

On your other stuff, the system is a good system. The problem is that it is filled with corrupt individuals. Until we bring back the concept of accountability, it will be that way.
Get over it Sea Demon, Obama is your chief for the next four years.<- point.
Really, it has turned into a Clinton White House again. Question is, will Obama lead or is he just a figurehead?
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What I believe is that the SYSTEM is corrupted and no longer functioning and unless you make a serious changes to the system, who is an US president does not really matter. On the other hand I do have a problem with your statement about Obama's voters: You are generalizing without having any facts on hand. IMHO that's short-sighted and wrong.
Actually this is a supported poll with a large statistical sample. It is not generalizing as it's a statistical model where they got the info. And it's frightening. Actually, the facts do support the premise.

On your other stuff, the system is a good system. The problem is that it is filled with corrupt individuals. Until we bring back the concept of accountability, it will be that way.
Get over it Sea Demon, Obama is your chief for the next four years.<- point.
Really, it has turned into a Clinton White House again. Question is, will Obama lead or is he just a figurehead?
Figurehead.
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