German armed forced get again dedicated medal for valor

Agreed. Contrary to popular believe the Iron cross was first issued during the napoleonic aera, in the wars for independence 1813. Agreed to all your points. Unluckily the polititians lack the balls for a propper reintroduction, fearing the backslash of WW2, not giving the iron cross any chance to win back its traditional reputation and respect.

That was predictable, however.

I would have rather Germany won the war to be honest. Hell I would rather be speaking German than Spanish

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by Flamingboat

I would have rather Germany won the war to be honest. Hell I would rather be speaking German than Spanish

Originally Posted by Flamingboat

I would have rather Germany won the war to be honest. Hell I would rather be speaking German than Spanish

your preferences for languages out of this, I seriously doubt you'd enjoy a german victory nowadays.

Originally Posted by Bewolf

your preferences for languages out of this, I seriously doubt you'd enjoy a german victory nowadays.

Germany didn't have a problem with us during the "European war". The powerful European banking families drug us into it just like in world war 1.

[Hylander_1314]

Yes but would ethnic cleansing apply to you? I had many cousins who came to America after the war ended, and they did not paint a very pretty picture of what went on during the NAZI regime.

It would really be nice to see the order Poure Le Merit come back into fashion. A very stunning medal in it's visual appearance. I think Frederick the Great created this one.

The only reason I would prefer Deutche over Espanol is I used to speak it as a youngster growing up, until grampa forbade it after I started school. He said, you're an American, speak english. You're not in Germany. I think he did that, since the adults would use Greman, Polish, Austrian, and Ukranian if they didn't want the kids to know what was being said.

[Letum]

This new medal may lack tradition, but that is something it can gain in time.

It's probably the best solution. A good compromise.

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

Yes but would ethnic cleansing apply to you?

No, I'm 6 feet tall and white. I could easily play a German extra in Das Boot or any world war 2 movie. I wouldn't say I would have liked them to win if I was jewish obviously. I'm not, so it doesn't concern me. I know the Palestinians would sure have liked Germany to win. I know this is not PC to say, but Israel has shown they are just as brutal by the way they have been treating their neighbors over the past several decades. Of course we are supposed to ignore this because they were the victims in world war 2.

[Hylander_1314]

But it did not apply to just Jewish People. There were something like another 5,000,000 Europeans who perished in the camps too. Poles, Czechs, French, Russian, Ukrainian, and people from other sovereign nations on the continent. Germans and Austrians included.

Poles for instance were looked upon as slave labor and fit for nothing else. Russians too were looked upon as subhumans for slave labor, and extermination. Although the Germans used Ukrainians as partisans.

It was a revolting regime, on a brutality level in human numbers that hadn't been seen in quite some time.

But lets not get too far off topic, as the thread does apply to modern times. And Germany is not a bad nation. They are a respectable people with great fortitude to overcome the images of the past.

[Task Force]

They always have to change everything, Look at Japan, They still keep there WW2 flag, But look at some of the horiable things they did.

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by Flamingboat

I would have rather Germany won the war to be honest. Hell I would rather be speaking German than Spanish

Are you out of your mind!