No wonder Obama draws large crowds to his rallys

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

...If one event includes a free concert and another doesn't, is it not reasonable to conclude that at least a percentage (probably a higher percentage than one would assume because of the age of Obamas followers) of the attendance of the event with a concert would be there simply for the free concert? If so, then Subman's conclusion isn't so unreasonable and certainly isn't pulled out of thin air (especially if you interpret "way more people" to mean a higher percentage)....

That sums it up pretty well. We all know that concerts, especially free ones (I might even go myself to see a free concert!) draw in people.

What I do find funny is that people here are denying it! I mean seriously! I guess people think the moon is made out of cheese too.

-S

[Hylander_1314]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

What I do find funny is that people here are denying it! I mean seriously! I guess people think the moon is made out of cheese too.

-S

Well where else would blue cheese, and blue cheese dressing come from!!!!!!!!?????????????

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Let me clear it up for you : nobody denies that free concerts and the like draw in people. What is denied is that seeing thousands of guys at a rally on TV would make much people turn their vote one way or the other.

Maybe so, but why then does the media play off the estimated number of participants in the crowd? Perhaps to spark some interest as to why so many people are listening to the person on the stage? I believe it does spark an interest in why person X has drawn such a crowd. Once the individual investigates they are exposed to what is being said and the possiblity of becoming active is very real. Lemings to the sea effect.

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Let me clear it up for you : nobody denies that free concerts and the like draw in people. What is denied is that seeing thousands of guys at a rally on TV would make much people turn their vote one way or the other.

You give the American voter too much credit in the intelligence department

Instead of worrying about who is qualified to do the job and looking into their past actions (i.e. voting records, questionable actions, etc.), the American voter worrites about what is coming out of the politicians mouth (as in what's he gonna do for me). The truth is, what comes out of their mouths is rarely what we get after they're elected.

Stop making excuses right wingers. I assure you the Obama crowds are not just there for the free food. You do realize Bush is the most hated president in modern history, if not the most hated president period. The country and the whole world are foaming at the mouth to put the right out of office.

John McLame is the only one dumb enough to stand in front of the crowd as the democrats storm the whitehouse next month.

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by Flamingboat

I assure you the Obama crowds are not just there for the free food.

And how would you go about assuring us of that hypothesis?:hmm:

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

And how would you go about assuring us of that hypothesis?:hmm:

Depends on what they are serving up.

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Depends on what they are serving up.

Most of what I've heard Obama serving up is BS, IMHO:rotfl:But he serves it well.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

Most of what I've heard Obama serving up is BS, IMHO:rotfl:But he serves it well.

Yes, BS on a silver plater:rotfl: BTW, DT, I do not accept your opinions as humble. I accept them as intelligently thought out! So, henceforth, I will only accept IMO from you.

[Hylander_1314]

Well it doesn't matter who gets elected. You're foolin' yourself if you think either one is going to have a sweeping change in DC. Both of them are not interested in upsetting what got the there; the status quo.

The last decent man in the White House was Woodrow Wilson. At least he had the courage to admit he ruined the nation by signing the Federal Reserve Act into law.

After that, it's been a snowball to "h-e double hockey sticks".

All that's going to happen either way, is our nation that was founded on the principles of personal liberty and property, is going to get nudged even closer to a socialist state.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Flamingboat

Stop making excuses right wingers. I assure you the Obama crowds are not just there for the free food. You do realize Bush is the most hated president in modern history, if not the most hated president period. The country and the whole world are foaming at the mouth to put the right out of office.

John McLame is the only one dumb enough to stand in front of the crowd as the democrats storm the whitehouse next month.

To be sure, no matter who gets in, we are screwed and the next president is just as screwed cleaning up this mess. Agreed, Bush is not the life of the party. Neither is Pelosi and Barney Frank. Personally, who would want the job anyway? We watched the democrates storm Congress for the past two years. Not much of a winning record going on there either. Everyone on the mall in Washington are to blame for our current ills. If you a pinning it all on Bush, your mistaken at who is to blame. It is not who but what group we as citizens elected to go have fun in Washington. If you think the Democrates will pass a magic wand over this in 28 days and all will be corrected, you are smoking some serious weed. We are looking at years to get this corrected if it is correctable at all. If you think Obama is the win all correct all, you are sorely mistaken. It will be a Joe Biden White House anyway. Obama is wet behind the ears. Come on Flamingboat, what real substance for leading this country has any of the candidate exhibited? Just more speeches from the pulpit for Obama and more mind changing from McCain.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

It will be a Joe Biden White House anyway. Obama is wet behind the ears. Come on Flamingboat, what real substance for leading this country has any of the candidate exhibited? Just more speeches from the pulpit for Obama and more mind changing from McCain.

Much better than the Dick Cheney whitehouse we have now, so much better. Change from McCain? He is the republican. How stupid would Al Gore have looked if he ran around after 8 years of Clinton and said "we need change". His party is the incumbent. If Bush did his job, which he didn't, McCain would not be trying in vain to rebrand the defunct republican party.

I wanted Ron Paul for president. I was trying to deal with McCain. Then he picks Palin. No way man, I'm not losing sleep everytime McCain gets out of breath with the fear of president palin.

Just imagine president Palin "Oh My God GUYS! Look, I'm on TV! Heeeey, HI MOM!, look I'm on TV"

Yeah, Palin sunk his ship.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Flamingboat

Much better than the Dick Cheney whitehouse we have now, so much better. Change from McCain? He is the republican. How stupid would Al Gore have looked if he ran around after 8 years of Clinton and said "we need change". His party is the incumbent. If Bush did his job, which he didn't, McCain would not be trying in vain to rebrand the defunct republican party.

I wanted Ron Paul for president. I was trying to deal with McCain. Then he picks Palin. No way man, I'm not losing sleep everytime McCain gets out of breath with the fear of president palin.

Just imagine president Palin "Oh My God GUYS! Look, I'm on TV! Heeeey, HI MOM!, look I'm on TV"

Yeah, Palin sunk his ship.

I do not think Palin sunk his ship. If anything, she brings more experience then Obama concerning working a budget. At any rate, we are on the path of Socialism and through the roof taxation under Obama. Lest one forget, the first 6 years under Bush the economy was good. We then have a majority of Democrates in the Capitol for the past two years and everything goes in the crapper. Americans have the shortest memory span in the world. Everyone wants to go to war after 9/11 and now that it is costing billions....Bush sucks. Get real and stand up to our failures and misjudgments. No one on Capitol Hill will...ask Barney Frank. And another thing, everyone has McCain in the grave already. Good Lord, my dad is 74 and the last thing on my mind is if he can make it another day. Me at 43 can die of a heart attack this afternoon. Worrying about McCains health is a cop out. Hell, Obama could take a bullet at any moment and I sure do not want Joe Biden running the place. Flamming...come to grips man, they all suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL OF THEM on the mall in Washington. Obama is not going to do one ioda of crap. McCain is not going to one ioda of crap. However, I would much prefer to look at Palin over the next four years and enjoy the Tina Fey spoofs for the next 4 years. As longs we are getting raped by the thugs on Capitol Hill, we should have a laugh or two.

Look through the smoke and mirrors Flamingboat....Washington screwed the tax payers....we had no say at all. Not even a common courtesy of a reach around as we took it in the shorts. And you think Obama is going to swish his magic wand? McCain has no magic wand. We are toast bro and our votes are meaningless. This was demonstrated when a $700 billion dollar legislations was signed. We are nothing but ATM machines for the government who like to go to bed with big business. Our votes count for nothing...ask Hillary.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

We watched the democrates storm Congress for the past two years. Not much of a winning record going on there either.

Agreed, especially since the same thing happened fourteen years ago. Tired of having Democrats run both the White House and the Congress, they 'threw the bums out' and installed Gingrich & Company. The result was a huge advancement to more of the same. It happened again with Bush as president, and now we have a Democrat congress giving us a huge change to more of the same. And blaming the other guys.

Everyone on the mall in Washington are to blame for our current ills. If you a pinning it all on Bush, your mistaken at who is to blame.

I'm not much of a Bush fan either, but it's my observation that he has this in common with Obama: the people who hate them do so for personal reasons, and would hate them no matter what they say or do. If Bush had not gone into Iraq you can bet that there would be thousands on the left lambasting him for missing the obvious and not taking out Saddam when he had the chance.

Some people will despise the guy on the other side just because he's the guy on the other side, and don't need - or want - any other reason. But they'll sure come up with a bunch of them, just to make themselves look credible.

[AVGWarhawk]

In short Steve, everyone wants their cake and eat it to.