Interesting 3Dmodels spotted (obj converted)

VonDos · 10-02-08, 03:28 AM

Hi everyone!
A friend found for me those models, for works after Laconia's end (she's beta testing now) :

Author isn't know °_°
Averof is really detailed, Angley TOO detayled, Hornet is a little poor but the deck is really good.
I need an impression ^_^ what do you think about this??

denis_469 · 10-02-08, 03:30 AM

Apparantly would be excellent addition for game.

Hunter · 10-02-08, 05:01 AM

Actualy, we already have Averof in GWX. Not too active ship to have two models of her. May be it could be revorked into KMS Schleswig-Holschtain?

So called Hornet is doesn't look like Hornet at all (there is already one exported from Sh4) It looks much similar to USS Yorktown, that would be a great luck to have both in Sh3 and SH4 along with its inheritor USS Essex Class.

USS Langley could be the most easy to model since her haul is similar to her sistership USS Proteus, which we already have and she just need flight deck to be added. Unfortunately, she sunk eraly in the Pacific and thus is of low priority for SH3.

AG124 · 10-02-08, 08:50 AM

Acrtually, the Proteus model I kitbashed is just a generic model based on the NAXC/NPTR hull - it meant to be more of a representation of larger, older colliers of that general design rather than the specific Proteus class.

@ VonDos - I don't know where those 3d models came from, but if you don't know who the authors are, I would suggest that you locate them and ask permission before releasing their models in the SHIII (or SHIV) format.

I think I might know where at least the Langley model came from (although I might be thinking of another model for CFS2), but I think the users who found them for you might be the best to consult re the location of said original authors.

EDIT - After a brief but closer look at that picture, I have no idea where that Langley model came from either - I'm thinking of a much less-detailed one (probably less detailed than the Hornet). Also, I would recommend choosing ships other than the Langley and Averoff to work on - we already have a fairly detailed Averoff model in GWX, and the Langley model you have depicts the vessel in her pre-war configuration (she had half of her flight deck removed to serve as an aircraft transport around 1936, and served only in the Pacific anyway). Not that the effort is not appreciated - for example, the Hornet would be good addition, if Grumman doesn't try to make a fuss; we are not Ubisoft employees, but this is still a Ubisoft game and I think everyong here is aware of the settlement terms between Ubisoft and Grumman. Anyway, I do hope to see some UK and US CV's, and maybe some other types of ships, added to the game so keep up the good efforts.

VonDos · 10-03-08, 04:49 AM

Hi!

My idea related with Averoff isn't do another unit, but make little "make-up" works
on the old model for a new release (if i've author's approvation, yes):

BEFORE

AFTER

I've send a message to SH3 Averoff author, VonHelsching, one to 3D model author and another one to Privateer (for GWX crew) for authorizations. I'm waiting ^^
This image show the results of 20 minutes of work: enlarged ship (from blueprints proportions), modified funnels, added pipes and modifyed command deck.

EDIT don't ask me to send you this ship before i've the permissions, please ^_^ the answer is NO, this is a moral question!

EDIT2 About VonHelshing, i've see this in his personal profile: he's out from long °_°
Someone know how to contact him?
-> Last Activity: 04-03-2008 05:45 AM

Paul.Saenger · 10-03-08, 05:05 AM

Regarding the Hornet - there were two Hornets in service with the US Navy, one being a Yorktown class carrier and another being an Essex class carrier. This seems to be the former.

However, there is already a very good Essex model ingame, so I doubt it would be necessary. Also, there is already a Yorktown unit converted by the Trio iirc.

USS Langley would definitely be interesting to see.

Another favorite unit would be the Richelieu, since the work seems to be abandoned.

bigboywooly · 10-03-08, 07:37 AM

Hi Von D
Have emailed Von Helsching
If he replies will let you know

@ Paul

Work on the Richelieu hasnt been abandoned
ppl have RL too remember

VonDos · 10-03-08, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Hi Von D
Have emailed Von Helsching
If he replies will let you know

Thanks a lot ^_^

geosub1978 · 10-03-08, 09:21 AM

This might help, for a closer look for AVEROF'S bridge

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rof_Today2.jpg.

Also, see a 1944 picture:

http://www.bsaverof.com/uk/history.htm

USS Sea Tiger · 10-03-08, 09:25 AM

WOW,, My vote would have to be for her , FULL deck version. please, yes yes, I know in 41 she had her deck shortened but I don't care, I would LOVE to have the old covered wagon.

geosub1978 · 10-03-08, 02:22 PM

Von Dos can't you make AVEROF's side turrets pointing fwd and aft instead of transverse?

Furthermore, I believe that AVEROF could be scripted in Mediterranean Convoy System and to the rest Mediterranean operations, like LANGLEY, in Atlantic Convoy System.

Finally, the other American Carrier, is of pre-war ENTERPRISE class (ENTERPRISE-YORKTOWN-HORNET).

VonDos · 10-03-08, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geosub1978

Von Dos can't you make AVEROF's side turrets pointing fwd and aft instead of transverse?

Extremely easy to do.

The problem for now is: can i make this Averof? :hmm:

geosub1978 · 10-03-08, 02:42 PM

I used to have Von Helsching's phone number:hmm:. Perhaps I can speak with him in the weekend.

VonDos · 10-03-08, 03:41 PM

Yes, please.
This can be usefull ^^

Hunter · 10-04-08, 03:01 AM

Why not to release it as addition to Von Helsching's mod that can't be used alone?

10-02-08, 03:28 AM	#1
VonDos Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 2,361 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 61	Interesting 3Dmodels spotted (obj converted) Hi everyone! A friend found for me those models, for works after Laconia's end (she's beta testing now) : Author isn't know °_° Averof is really detailed, Angley TOO detayled, Hornet is a little poor but the deck is really good. I need an impression ^_^ what do you think about this?? __________________ Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508

10-02-08, 05:01 AM	#3
Hunter Commander Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: St.Petersburg, Russia Posts: 474 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	Actualy, we already have Averof in GWX. Not too active ship to have two models of her. May be it could be revorked into KMS Schleswig-Holschtain? So called Hornet is doesn't look like Hornet at all (there is already one exported from Sh4) It looks much similar to USS Yorktown, that would be a great luck to have both in Sh3 and SH4 along with its inheritor USS Essex Class. USS Langley could be the most easy to model since her haul is similar to her sistership USS Proteus, which we already have and she just need flight deck to be added. Unfortunately, she sunk eraly in the Pacific and thus is of low priority for SH3. Last edited by Hunter; 10-02-08 at 06:42 AM.

10-02-08, 08:50 AM	#4
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Model Conversions Acrtually, the Proteus model I kitbashed is just a generic model based on the NAXC/NPTR hull - it meant to be more of a representation of larger, older colliers of that general design rather than the specific Proteus class. @ VonDos - I don't know where those 3d models came from, but if you don't know who the authors are, I would suggest that you locate them and ask permission before releasing their models in the SHIII (or SHIV) format. I think I might know where at least the Langley model came from (although I might be thinking of another model for CFS2), but I think the users who found them for you might be the best to consult re the location of said original authors. EDIT - After a brief but closer look at that picture, I have no idea where that Langley model came from either - I'm thinking of a much less-detailed one (probably less detailed than the Hornet). Also, I would recommend choosing ships other than the Langley and Averoff to work on - we already have a fairly detailed Averoff model in GWX, and the Langley model you have depicts the vessel in her pre-war configuration (she had half of her flight deck removed to serve as an aircraft transport around 1936, and served only in the Pacific anyway). Not that the effort is not appreciated - for example, the Hornet would be good addition, if Grumman doesn't try to make a fuss; we are not Ubisoft employees, but this is still a Ubisoft game and I think everyong here is aware of the settlement terms between Ubisoft and Grumman. Anyway, I do hope to see some UK and US CV's, and maybe some other types of ships, added to the game so keep up the good efforts. __________________ DOWNLOAD GWX HERE: http://www.thegreywolves.com/index.html

10-03-08, 04:49 AM	#5
VonDos Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 2,361 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 61	Hi! My idea related with Averoff isn't do another unit, but make little "make-up" works on the old model for a new release (if i've author's approvation, yes): BEFORE AFTER I've send a message to SH3 Averoff author, VonHelsching, one to 3D model author and another one to Privateer (for GWX crew) for authorizations. I'm waiting ^^ This image show the results of 20 minutes of work: enlarged ship (from blueprints proportions), modified funnels, added pipes and modifyed command deck. EDIT don't ask me to send you this ship before i've the permissions, please ^_^ the answer is NO, this is a moral question! EDIT2 About VonHelshing, i've see this in his personal profile: he's out from long °_° Someone know how to contact him? -> Last Activity: 04-03-2008 05:45 AM __________________ Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508 Last edited by VonDos; 10-03-08 at 06:17 AM.

10-03-08, 07:37 AM	#7
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Hi Von D Have emailed Von Helsching If he replies will let you know @ Paul Work on the Richelieu hasnt been abandoned ppl have RL too remember __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

10-02-08, 03:30 AM	#2
denis_469 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Russia Posts: 700 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	Apparantly would be excellent addition for game.

10-03-08, 05:05 AM	#6
Paul.Saenger Gunner Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 97 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Regarding the Hornet - there were two Hornets in service with the US Navy, one being a Yorktown class carrier and another being an Essex class carrier. This seems to be the former. However, there is already a very good Essex model ingame, so I doubt it would be necessary. Also, there is already a Yorktown unit converted by the Trio iirc. USS Langley would definitely be interesting to see. Another favorite unit would be the Richelieu, since the work seems to be abandoned.

10-03-08, 09:21 AM	#9
geosub1978 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salamis Base Posts: 567 Downloads: 229 Uploads: 0	This might help, for a closer look for AVEROF'S bridge http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rof_Today2.jpg. Also, see a 1944 picture: http://www.bsaverof.com/uk/history.htm __________________ Last edited by geosub1978; 10-03-08 at 02:28 PM.

10-03-08, 09:25 AM	#10
USS Sea Tiger XO Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 425 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Langley!!1! WOW,, My vote would have to be for her , FULL deck version. please, yes yes, I know in 41 she had her deck shortened but I don't care, I would LOVE to have the old covered wagon.

10-03-08, 02:22 PM	#11
geosub1978 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salamis Base Posts: 567 Downloads: 229 Uploads: 0	Von Dos can't you make AVEROF's side turrets pointing fwd and aft instead of transverse? Furthermore, I believe that AVEROF could be scripted in Mediterranean Convoy System and to the rest Mediterranean operations, like LANGLEY, in Atlantic Convoy System. Finally, the other American Carrier, is of pre-war ENTERPRISE class (ENTERPRISE-YORKTOWN-HORNET). __________________

10-03-08, 02:42 PM	#13
geosub1978 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salamis Base Posts: 567 Downloads: 229 Uploads: 0	I used to have Von Helsching's phone number:hmm:. Perhaps I can speak with him in the weekend. __________________

10-03-08, 03:41 PM	#14
VonDos Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 2,361 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 61	Yes, please. This can be usefull ^^ __________________ Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508

10-04-08, 03:01 AM	#15
Hunter Commander Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: St.Petersburg, Russia Posts: 474 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	Why not to release it as addition to Von Helsching's mod that can't be used alone?