Massive Takedown of Anti-Scientology Videos on YouTube

[SUBMAN1]

Someone needs to sue this cult into oblivion for violating free speech rights.

-S

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/09...videos-youtube

Massive Takedown of Anti-Scientology Videos on YouTube

News Update by Eva Galperin

Over a period of twelve hours, between this Thursday night and Friday morning, American Rights Counsel LLC sent out over 4000 DMCA takedown notices to YouTube, all making copyright infringement claims against videos with content critical of the Church of Scientology. Clips included footage of Australian and German news reports about Scientology, , and footage from a . Many accounts were suspended by YouTube in response to multiple allegations of copyright infringement.

YouTube users responded with DMCA counter-notices. At this time, many of the suspended channels have been reinstated and many of the videos are back up. Whether or not American Rights Counsel, LLC represents the notoriously litigious Church of Scientology is unclear, but this would not be the first time that the Church of Scientology has used the DMCA to silence Scientology critics. The Church of Scientology DMCA complaints shut down the YouTube channel of critic Mark Bunker in June, 2008. Bunker’s account, XenuTV, was also among the channels shut down in this latest flurry of takedown notices.

[Letum]

Some of the laws they are evoking may be right and just, but the same can not be
said of the motives behind the evocation.

[Frame57]

I am not quite sure even why they use the word "church". I understand in greek it just means "assembly", but traditional connotations infer a christian affiliation.

[Happy Times]

I dont understand how they are regocnized as a religion in some countries while they work to destroy civill liberties. They are in the same cast as organized crime and terrorism.

[Skybird]

When tolerance does no longer ask whether the object is worth to be tolerated or not, it becomes an end in itself. In practical consequence it is not any different than appeasement, then. Such kind of "tolerance" deserve our utmost disgust. It is self-deception, weakness and cowardice.

In France the scientology sect again faces a court trial over organised fraud. It has been sentenced for that before, but sometimes also evaded such a sentence. In Germany, all in all it is being seen as anti-constitutional and a threat to the basic order of the german state. Several federal states have it under observation by federal intelligence services. scientology itself speaks of Germany as its most important battlefield for the fight to infiltrate Europe's institutions and societies.

They are as wanted as bone cancer.

[Frame57]

Yikes! And I thought I had problems with the JW's

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Frame57

Yikes! And I thought I had problems with the JW's

Who?

[Digital_Trucker]

Jehovah's Witnesses. They drag their children around knocking on doors wanting to "give" you their little "tracts".

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Skybird

When tolerance does no longer ask whether the object is worth to be tolerated or not

It's not really "tolerance" if you pick and chose what you tolerate.
Excuse the Reductio ad Hitlerum, but in the 1930s the Germans where very
tolerant by your standard, they just decided the Jews where not "worth to be
tolerated".

A better way to go about it is to tolerate everything you can that does not unjustly
infringe upon others.

For this reason scientology's disgraceful activities should not be tolerated.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

Jehovah's Witnesses. They drag their children around knocking on doors wanting to "give" you their little "tracts".

Ofcourse, they are comparable in many ways.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

Ofcourse, they are comparable in many ways.

The JW.s do, on the face of it, seam to be a little more genuine.
They certainly have less money changing hands AFAIK.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Letum

The JW.s do, on the face of it, seam to be a little more genuine.
They certainly have less money changing hands AFAIK.

I know many, and they are in many ways normal but they arent free to think much on their own. They do give a fair share of money and i understand they send it to US. Now if they only print more gospel with it thats their business but somehow i have my doubts. The threats and extortion of members wanting to leave is also common feature.

[Wolfehunter]

Someone has to put this bogus church into place. How can they actually file this? Isn't there a way for the other side to defend themselves? I guess the powerful with cash can buy the law off?:hmm:

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

Someone has to put this bogus church into place. How can they actually file this? Isn't there a way for the other side to defend themselves? I guess the powerful with cash can buy the law off?:hmm:

They are recognized as a religion in the US.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by Skybird

When tolerance does no longer ask whether the object is worth to be tolerated or not, it becomes an end in itself. In practical consequence it is not any different than appeasement, then. Such kind of "tolerance" deserve our utmost disgust. It is self-deception, weakness and cowardice.

In France the scientology sect again faces a court trial over organised fraud. It has been sentenced for that before, but sometimes also evaded such a sentence. In Germany, all in all it is being seen as anti-constitutional and a threat to the basic order of the german state. Several federal states have it under observation by federal intelligence services. scientology itself speaks of Germany as its most important battlefield for the fight to infiltrate Europe's institutions and societies.

They are as wanted as bone cancer.

As much as I personally agree you with in many respects here, I could never politically support such a missive.
Letum basically sumed it up pretty well.

Why not encourage a groundswell of popular support that forces legislators to pursue criminal court cases for fraud and scientology's other violations of the law?
For that matter, also to encourage them not to support censorship efforts like this.

I, for one, will be including this in my letters to Kay Granger and Kay Hutchinson this month.