A look at some of Palin's executive decisions

[Von Tonner]

Pretty impressive wouldn't you say - that is if you don't give a rats arse for the environment.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinio...inenvir07.html

[August]

And it even came with a cartoon? Impressive!

[UnderseaLcpl]

So, basically, she's a conservative. She must be so ashamed

[Von Tonner]

Originally Posted by August

And it even came with a cartoon? Impressive!

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

So, basically, she's a conservative. She must be so ashamed

You know guys, they say sarcasm is the last flickering flame of dying intelligence. While I would resist labelling you two with that affliction, neither of you address the issues in the article. Interesting:hmm:

The pattern is clear. On the environment, Sarah Palin is essentially George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and perhaps James Watt rolled into one, but with a more pleasant demeanor. At a time when the nation and world urgently need strong environmental leadership from the United States, it is important to look beyond charisma and carefully consider the environmental implications of our vote in November.

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by Von Tonner

You know guys, they say sarcasm is the last flickering flame of dying intelligence.

Just who is this "they" that your refer to?

Edit : I noticed you left Mikhayl's sarcasm out of your examples, too Could that be because you didn't consider it sarcasm because you agree with it?

[August]

Originally Posted by Von Tonner

You know guys, they say sarcasm is the last flickering flame of dying intelligence.

And yet only two of the three of us has an actual say in the election. It must be so frustrating to you.

While I would resist labelling you two with that affliction, neither of you address the issues in the article. Interesting:hmm:

But why should we? It is merely yet another Democrat attack article in a long list of Democrat attack articles. Even the part you quoted basically says nothing more than "Ooh the Republicans are teh ebil!!!!1one!"

[Tchocky]

Climate change isn't really a conservative/liberal issue. Response to it certainly is, naturally.

Sticking one's fingers in one's ears and screaming "NA NA NA" is not a conservative position.

On the environment, one should not consider the Republican Party to be conservative. A Party that roars "Drill, baby, drill!" is adolescent, or possibly infantile. That is all.

[August]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Climate change isn't really a conservative/liberal issue. Response to it certainly is, naturally.

Sticking one's fingers in one's ears and screaming "NA NA NA" is not a conservative position.

On the environment, one should not consider the Republican Party to be conservative. A Party that roars "Drill, baby, drill!" is adolescent, or possibly infantile. That is all.

Good thing you don't have those concerns in your country, eh?

[Tchocky]

Misseed your post, copying this edit over from my last one.

Originally Posted by August

But why should we? It is merely yet another Democrat attack article in a long list of Democrat attack articles. Even the part you quoted basically says nothing more than "Ooh the Republicans are teh ebil!!!!1one!"

August, this really is a stretch. The writer makes his position clear at the beginning, it is obvious that this will not be a Palin-friendly piece. However, the remainder of the article is a clear list of events and positions taken by palin on issues that pertain to the environment. No amount of misspellings or stereotypes on your part will change that.

Regarding voting, yes, sometimes it is frustrating.

Good thing you don't have those concerns in your country, eh?

We certainly don't have the denial problem to the same degree.

[Skybird]

McCain constantly declined in my recognition. Where years ago I thought I eventually could arrange myself with him if needed, today I just see him as a foolish old man lacking some key knowledge on important things, and beyond that just humming the same old outdated tunes. Palin, however, beat him in speed at which she raced down the ladder of my recognition, from "neutral" (I did not know her) to "worst case scenario". the more I learn about her, the more hostile I become to her.

I eventually could end up supporting Obama not for supporting Obama, but just to prevent the world suffering from another four desastrous years in the US. In a way there is no internal policies in the US. what they do "internally", very often has consequences for all the world.

Very bad speech of McCain at the party convent. as a german paper titled: he spoke much but said little. Palin was called a "lipstick-bullterrier".

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Very bad speech of McCain at the party convent. as a german paper titled: he spoke much but said little. Palin was called a "lipstick-bullterrier".

She actually labelled herself a "pit-bull with lipstick". Which makes the already hilarious spectacle of Republicans complaining about sexism very, very, tiring.

[August]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

She actually labelled herself a "pit-bull with lipstick". Which makes the already hilarious spectacle of Republicans complaining about sexism very, very, tiring.

First off she didn't say she was a "pit-bull with lipstick", that's the democrat, and apparently Irish, partisan spin. She jokingly asked what was the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull, the answer being "lipstick". 1+1 does not equal 3 no matter how hard you want to believe it Tchocky.

Second you are very quick to use that single joke to excuse repeated Democrat lies that she cheated on her husband or tried to cover up her daughters pregnancy. Lies that are both blatantly untrue and far and away more disgusting than one single self deprecating joke.

Third i'm not addressing the points of the article because until it comes from a more reputable source than an opinion article written by someone who admits right from the start he is writing an attack piece, as far as I and my vote is concerned it changes nothing.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by August

First off she didn't say she was a "pit-bull with lipstick", that's the democrat, and apparently Irish, partisan spin. She jokingly asked what was the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull, the answer being "lipstick". 1+1 does not equal 3 no matter how hard you want to believe it Tchocky.

Whuh? She's casting herself as a hockey mom, sexualising herself immediately. I think the joke can be fairly summarised that way, given that half the coverage was reporting the aggressiveness of her speech, and the other half her beauty pageant past. I'm not spinning anything here.

Second you are very quick to use that single joke to excuse repeated Democrat lies that she cheated on her husband or tried to cover up her daughters pregnancy.

Er, no. I'm saying that if she's going to use her gender as a political plank, then she may asked questions about it. Kind of like her children, if she's going to use them, there will be a response.
You're ascribing actions to me that I haven't taken, I didn't say it excused anything, nevermind specific issues. I'm saying that it's not acceptable to use something in a manipulative fashion, then complain when asked about it. Observe how John McCain almost never mentions his children, fair enough. But Palin made hay over her son signing up on the 11th September, then the GOP went crazy when reporters asked about her kids. Either they're on the table or not. "Don't ask me about this child, ask me about this one" Listen to what Obama said, families are off-limits.

Third i'm not addressing the points of the article because until it comes from a more reputable source than an opinion article written by someone who admits right from the start he is writing an attack piece, as far as I and my vote is concerned it changes nothing.

Why, is everything now invalid because of the first two paragraphs? Why not find out for yourself? Why do you instantly lapse into stereotype?
Here's another story on her environmental record - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...al-920803.html
Another - http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,6706698.story
Another - http://www.usnews.com/blogs/fresh-gr...vironment.html

These took a few seconds of googling. Think I'll lie down for a bit.

[SUBMAN1]

I will respectfully decline from entering this thread. Though I am tempted!

-S

[Von Tonner]

Originally Posted by August

Third i'm not addressing the points of the article because until it comes from a more reputable source than an opinion article written by someone who admits right from the start he is writing an attack piece, as far as I and my vote is concerned it changes nothing.

You know August, and I say this respectively, please reconsider your above statement, they (oh, let me rephrase that in respect of Digital Trucker) it is said that in Third World countries to succeed in politics all one has to do is appeal to the lowest common denominator in the voting populace to carry the vote. Is this what is happening in the foremost First World country by your reply - you (August) won't expand your knowledge on pertinent issues because the writer cites facts which you either cannot dispute, or, like the ostriches in my country, by sticking their heads into the sand, hope to go away. Are you the 'lowest common denominator' in US politics - just asking.