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Old 08-22-08, 03:13 PM   #1
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Default McCain - Just your average "Every man".

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The Republican presidential candidate started the fuss earlier this week when he fumbled a question from Politico about how many houses he owns. He hemmed and hawed, then said, "I'll have my staff get to you."
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Old 08-22-08, 03:34 PM   #2
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McCain's advisers are counterattacking by criticizing Obama for getting help in purchasing his Chicago "mansion" from a felon.
Their both politicians and they're both wealthy, out of touch with the "common" person and probably have lots of skeletons in closets just waiting to get out. As Steve said not too long ago, there needs to be a "none of the above" on the ballot.
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Old 08-22-08, 03:41 PM   #3
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McCain is an extremely rich man (more than you think). Not an appropriate question I would say.

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Old 08-22-08, 03:48 PM   #4
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Not an appropriate question
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Old 08-22-08, 03:49 PM   #5
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Their both politicians and they're both wealthy, out of touch with the "common" person and probably have lots of skeletons in closets just waiting to get out. As Steve said not too long ago, there needs to be a "none of the above" on the ballot.
Obama isn't in the same ballpark as Mccain when it comes to being wealthy. But they are both politicians....

Obama made his money selling a book as far as I know.
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This is true. If I'm not mistaken, though, isn't most of McCain's wealth actually his wife's (the Budweiser heiress). Not that it matters.
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This is true. If I'm not mistaken, though, isn't most of McCain's wealth actually his wife's (the Budweiser heiress). Not that it matters.
Yes. Probably a prenump in there somewhere.

And if Bill Gates was in McCains place, whats the difference? None.

Big Whoop!

Both guys are rich if you didn't notice.

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PS. If you want to start with Repub vs Demo on the richness scale - pull out Congress. I believe it is a 6 or 7 to one ratio in favor of the demo's.
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Old 08-22-08, 06:33 PM   #8
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Yeah, so that's absurd. I'm referring to 2 candidates, and you drew the party lines. Not me. Business as usual....

Also, I thought it wasn't an appropriate question/issue? I guess that only applies to Republicans?
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I really hate being in the position to defend any politician, but I think this whole house question is a no-news story.

The press is making a big deal out of it because the average citizen tries to compare his or her life to McCain. Since the average citizen knows how many houses they own, the expect McCain to know.

McCain's life is not that simple. Both he and his wife are business people also.

He owns houses
His wife owns houses
He and his wife may own houses together
He owns rental properties
His wife owns rental properties
They may jointly own rental properties

For all we know, his wife's businesses and charities may own houses as part of the business/charity.

What is a simple question to the average joe, may not be that easy for someone with complicated real estate businesses and holdings.

There is plenty of better things to slam McCain on. This house issue is non-news.
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McCain said he would rely on people like Petraeus and Obama would rely on his wife and granny.... My oh my, need we look any further?
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We can conclude:

A) McCain is too old and forgetful since he can't remember how many homes he owns, and shouldn't even qualify to be president henceforth.

B) McCain has an issue with talking about his personal life on the campaign trail, even though he has no problem bashing Obama's personal life.

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Bottom line. McCain married a sugar-momma. He's got cribs he don't know about. The only beef I've got with it is that I don't have it so well. Show me anyone running for a national office that lives like the rest of us.
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The point of course being that 99.9% of all Americans when asked, know exactly how many houses they (and their spouses) own.

The point of course being that for the vast majority of Americans, the number of homes that they own is quite simply.... ONE.

The point
of course is that McCain may have known... but due to his advanced age, he simply forgot.

The point of course being that home ownership is such a forgone conclusion to John McCain that it just isn't a big deal- a home is much like a TV set for most Americans.... how many do YOU own? Did you have to give the answer a moments thought??

The point of course is that John McCain does not see the world as most Americans do.

The point of course is that John McCain may really, really, really believe that there is no serious problem with the U.S. economy. And from HIS perspective, maybe he is right-

The point
of course is that I don't live in John McCain's world anymore than John McCain lives in mine.

And THAT of course, is the point. HE is the one who is not one of us, when "us" refers to an "average" American struggling to make ends meet.

For purposes of "full disclosure" - Barack Obama "owns" one home- and THAT one is MORTGAGED. Now that is something that I can relate to.

In closing, do not be surprised that this one story has the legs to last till election day- just like when George Bush Sr. was asked a similarly innocent question concerning the price of a gallon of milk.
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The point of course being that 99.9% of all Americans when asked, know exactly how many houses they (and their spouses) own.

The point of course being that for the vast majority of Americans, the number of homes that they own is quite simply.... ONE.

The point
of course is that McCain may have known... but due to his advanced age, he simply forgot.

The point of course being that home ownership is such a forgone conclusion to John McCain that it just isn't a big deal- a home is much like a TV set for most Americans.... how many do YOU own? Did you have to give the answer a moments thought??

The point of course is that John McCain does not see the world as most Americans do.

The point of course is that John McCain may really, really, really believe that there is no serious problem with the U.S. economy. And from HIS perspective, maybe he is right-

The point
of course is that I don't live in John McCain's world anymore than John McCain lives in mine.

And THAT of course, is the point. HE is the one who is not one of us, when "us" refers to an "average" American struggling to make ends meet.

For purposes of "full disclosure" - Barack Obama "owns" one home- and THAT one is MORTGAGED. Now that is something that I can relate to.

In closing, do not be surprised that this one story has the legs to last till election day- just like when George Bush Sr. was asked a similarly innocent question concerning the price of a gallon of milk.
Okay, so if I read your points correctly we should vote for Obama because he has one house and it's mortgaged? Do you really think Obama is one of "us"? That mortgaged house is worth over a million and a half dollars. He and his wife's net worth is somewhere in the millions. That makes him one of "us"? The only difference in how un-"us" like the two are is the degree. They are both wealthy and have no clue what it is like to be one of "us".

Oh, BTW, I only have one house and it's mortgaged, so I'd like you to vote for me for president. You'll have to write me in though because I'm pretty sure I can't buy my way on to the ballot.
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Old 08-23-08, 01:19 PM   #15
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This is true. If I'm not mistaken, though, isn't most of McCain's wealth actually his wife's (the Budweiser heiress). Not that it matters.
Yes, his wife is a beer mogal. However, McCain only disclosed his past years earnings when asked. His wifes earnings are of no ones business but her own. I agree. But hey, if McCain gets elected....there can be on hell of a intergalactic kegger on the DC mall
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