America's fundamental change - Page 2

UnderseaLcpl · 08-15-08, 03:17 PM

Immigrants? Bring em' on! The more the merrier.

Let's just make sure we find our capitalism and limited government first so we can profit from them instead of pay for them.

It should be around here somewhere.......
I know it's not in the attic because that's Canada.

Frame57 · 08-15-08, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Immigrants? Bring em' on! The more the merrier.

Let's just make sure we find our capitalism and limited government first so we can profit from them instead of pay for them.

It should be around here somewhere.......
I know it's not in the attic because that's Canada.

True, true! I actually looked into living in Romania. I have to learn the language, I have to have a career, I have to have at least 60K in cash to move there. That is friggin Romania!

heartc · 08-15-08, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

I don't know what America you speak of, but the one I live in is not "the traditional America of the proverbial WASP" now.

He speaks of Spiegel's America...

UnderseaLcpl · 08-15-08, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by heartc

He speaks of Spiegel's America...

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:Good one!

Konovalov · 08-15-08, 04:34 PM

I think that one gains a better knowledge and understanding of a country and it's people by travelling throughout it and meeting it's people over an extended period of time.

August · 08-15-08, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov

I think that one gains a better knowledge and understanding of a country and it's people by travelling throughout it and meeting it's people over an extended period of time.

I agree. I learned a lot about Germany during the three years i lived over there.

Digital_Trucker · 08-15-08, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by heartc

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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

I don't know what America you speak of, but the one I live in is not "the traditional America of the proverbial WASP" now.

He speaks of Spiegel's America...

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Thanks for clearing that up, heartc

Sure am glad I don't live in that America

August · 08-15-08, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

Thanks for clearing that up, heartc

Sure am glad I don't live in that America

I tried to tell Skybird how off base he was but he wouldn't listen.

08-16-08, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Frame57

I have never been a person who felt the American spirit had to be infused with a superiority complex.

Of course not, it comes naturally when you've been running the world for the last century or so.

Skybird · 08-16-08, 03:44 AM

Cover carricatures are no argument pro or against the content and quality of a printed essay.

Often their carricatures are damn good, nevertheless. And sometimes they are imitations of American originals.

Platapus · 08-16-08, 06:18 AM

Is there a website where larger sizes of those covers can be downloaded. Some of them are pretty clever.

Fish · 08-16-08, 07:20 AM

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Welcome to the great melting pot.

Where now the pot itself is melting...(!?)

You could be right.

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Within a few decades, the U.S. will lack automobile, truck, air, and rail transportation, as well as mechanized agriculture, adequate food and water supplies, electric power, sanitation, home heating, hospital care, and government services.

http://www.peakoilassociates.com/Pea...ober6-2007.pdf

CURRICULM VITAE
CLIFFORD J. WIRTH

http://www.unh.edu/political-science/wirth.pdf

jeremy8529 · 08-16-08, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov

I think that one gains a better knowledge and understanding of a country and it's people by travelling throughout it and meeting it's people over an extended period of time.

I would strongly agree with you, call me weak at soul, but I was actually offended by someone who lived in Holland when I having a chat over ventrilo (yes I know he didn't mean anything by it and no i wasn't pissed, I was more... hurt... perhaps?)

" Your not like most Americans"

"How so?"

"Well, most American's seem to think they own the world and that they are superior"

" What would give you that impression?"

"The news mainly, CNN and the such."

Now, you must think, is it our fault people see us this way? The average American Cit? Are we really that arrogant of a people as a whole?

Perhaps, the newscasters don their cloak of super American patriotism, and prepare to march across other country's feelings in their steel plated boots.

Perhaps even, and most likely in my opinion, it is our current administration, maybe the fact we can't keep our fecking hands to our selves so to say, maybe the fact the dragged several other nations into a war that is mostly un-popular,

Let me tell everyone this here, let me tell everyone something they already know, that perhaps they forget it whenever it is convienant, but we don't vote on these conflicts, we are not a true democracy, we are more akin to a republic, or as they sugar coat it in my school books today, " Represntive Democracy"

We did not vote to go to Iraq! We did not elect a presedent with conquest on our mind! We did not say, "Let's vote for someone who will crusade in foregin lands for us to bring us more oil!"

As I see it, we vote for someone we think will behave a certain way, in a certain situation, and we pray for the best.

Sorry for the soapbox speech

Digital_Trucker · 08-16-08, 08:34 AM

No need to apologize, Jeremy. This country is not a democracy at all. It is a Republic. Our government is the same as any government on this planet. It is run by human beings, and as such, is fatally flawed. If anyone can think of one, I'd like to know which government on this planet is perfect and totally reflects the feelings and wishes of its average citizen.

Associating the characteristics of a people with the actions of it's government is dangerous. It's been done many times, and, evidently continues unabated. Using that type of logic, the average German citizen under Hitler would have been a megalomaniacal racist. I don't believe that was the case any more than I believe that the average American is whatever the hell George Bush is.

Whether you want to believe it or not, all governments are the same. They are run by out of touch, elite, power hungry people. It's the nature of government. The power attracts the type of people that you see leading us now. The concept of a "public servant", one who strives to do what's best for their people, is a thing of the past.

Edit : As for the graphics not degrading the written work inside the magazine, I agree. The written work inside of any publication isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

Frame57 · 08-16-08, 12:17 PM

Agreed! We have had popular vote over ruled by our own apponted judges on various propositions in this country. Which to me is treasonous! Our representatives often do not do their job and cater to their party rather than the people. The question is what can we do about it? No one seems to know. The system is in need of reformation. Perhaps amendments need to be made to limit terms of the senate. All Judges should be voted in and not appointed to clearly be party biased. The will of the people is what needs to be acted upon and not the will of bankers and other selfish entities.

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UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Immigrants? Bring em' on! The more the merrier. Let's just make sure we find our capitalism and limited government first so we can profit from them instead of pay for them. It should be around here somewhere....... I know it's not in the attic because that's Canada. __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

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Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I think that one gains a better knowledge and understanding of a country and it's people by travelling throughout it and meeting it's people over an extended period of time. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,717 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Cover carricatures are no argument pro or against the content and quality of a printed essay. Often their carricatures are damn good, nevertheless. And sometimes they are imitations of American originals. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,399 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Is there a website where larger sizes of those covers can be downloaded. Some of them are pretty clever. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Digital_Trucker Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Peach State Posts: 4,171 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 10	No need to apologize, Jeremy. This country is not a democracy at all. It is a Republic. Our government is the same as any government on this planet. It is run by human beings, and as such, is fatally flawed. If anyone can think of one, I'd like to know which government on this planet is perfect and totally reflects the feelings and wishes of its average citizen. Associating the characteristics of a people with the actions of it's government is dangerous. It's been done many times, and, evidently continues unabated. Using that type of logic, the average German citizen under Hitler would have been a megalomaniacal racist. I don't believe that was the case any more than I believe that the average American is whatever the hell George Bush is. Whether you want to believe it or not, all governments are the same. They are run by out of touch, elite, power hungry people. It's the nature of government. The power attracts the type of people that you see leading us now. The concept of a "public servant", one who strives to do what's best for their people, is a thing of the past. Edit : As for the graphics not degrading the written work inside the magazine, I agree. The written work inside of any publication isn't worth the paper it's printed on. __________________ RSM-GIEP-Killflags-LV Tribute-Playable Elco __Peace be with you, Dave.

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Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Agreed! We have had popular vote over ruled by our own apponted judges on various propositions in this country. Which to me is treasonous! Our representatives often do not do their job and cater to their party rather than the people. The question is what can we do about it? No one seems to know. The system is in need of reformation. Perhaps amendments need to be made to limit terms of the senate. All Judges should be voted in and not appointed to clearly be party biased. The will of the people is what needs to be acted upon and not the will of bankers and other selfish entities.