Total Tonnages So Far - Opinions?

Cpt-Maxim · 07-30-08, 06:31 AM

Here's a screenshot of the blackboard Top Skippers Scores found in your office at the end of each patrol.. I will update the link to a new photo as new tonnage comes in and total number of patrols changes..

What do ya think?

8 patrols on 100% realism 351,553 total tons.
Most recent mission: Photo Recon Tokyo Harbour (lots of sitting ducks this time)
Patrol result: 17 merchants, 8 warships, 2 zeroes, 2 search planes. (1 carrier, 2crusiers, 2 DD's, 2 subchasers, 1 gunboat)

Sailor Steve · 07-30-08, 07:00 AM

I think it's way too easy.

Seminole · 07-30-08, 07:46 AM

Yeah.... it is like fly fishing a stream where you catch a 10 pound brownie on every cast.

After the first couple of days it becomes ho-hum.

It is so easy on full realism I have to wonder just what you could accomplish with 0 realism and one of those mods that gives you "super powers" ?

Though I ain't about to find out firsthand...

Rockin Robbins · 07-30-08, 08:15 AM

I'd say it's time to crank up the difficulty with RSRD and TMO, then kill the harbor raids. However your tonnage isn't in the realm of the real gamers, who are bragging about amassing 100k tons in a single cruise without a refit. I figure 30 - 50k per cruise is darn decent with a halfway realistic setup and coming in under 10k isn't unusual. That's still too easy, but that's SH4 with any set of mods so far.

Quillan · 07-30-08, 08:19 AM

I sank 100k tons without a refit in SH3 one time, but it was before GWX and I wasn't using manual targeting then. Besides, most of the kills came through the deck gun because I had a more than 2 week period of calm seas. Since I switched to manual targeting and TMO/RSRD, I consider myself to be doing very well if I sink 20k tons in a patrol. I topped 40k tons once, but the biggest chunk of that came when I got advance radio notice of a BB transit, and caught a Kongo on the way home.

SteamWake · 07-30-08, 08:31 AM

Realistic tonnage would be 'boring'.

I can imagine the posts here "I went an entire patrol and all I saw was a fishing boat"

Anyhow thats why it is as it is.

Sailor Steve · 07-30-08, 08:51 AM

Boring for some. I like it when I can be glad I sank something and came home with 8,000 tons.

But then I like cruising the harbors, too.

07-30-08, 09:11 AM

All I can say is - Where is that stream, Seminole????????

Bam

Seminole · 07-30-08, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bammac3

All I can say is - Where is that stream, Seminole????????

Bam

Not here in Oregon..thats fer dang sure....we like to grind up all our small fry in hydroelectric turbines to make juice for Kaliforniers...

.. so they never make it that big.

You might try in Shangri-la.

SteamWake · 07-30-08, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Seminole

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Originally Posted by bammac3

All I can say is - Where is that stream, Seminole????????

Bam

Not here in Oregon..thats fer dang sure....we like to grind up all our small fry in hydroelectric turbines to make juice for Kaliforniers...

.. so they never make it that big.

You might try in Shangri-la.

What happened to all the expensive fancy smancy 'diverters' ?

Oh well at least they can feel good about being green

Sorry to wander off topic.

tomoose · 07-30-08, 03:31 PM

If it's too easy then it's not worth playing and quickly gets boring IMHO.
I'm currently using Version 1.4 with TMO and RSRD.
I just got back from a patrol with nada, zip, niente and yes, I was disappointed but at least I know that historically that was certainly not unusual. My patrol before that I managed to find one ship. Sinking it took some time and manoeuvering and was extremely satisfactory!!

The patrol before that I bagged 3 ships and was ecstatic, LOL.
I don't 'cruise' the harbours as my orders don't usually give me that leeway. Additionally an 'undefended' harbour is hardly realistic and present no challenge.
I've seen some huge numbers in tonnage in SH3 and SH4 which, compared to the famous skippers of the day, are so far off it's laughable.
Whatever turns your wheel, I guess.

You get out of it what you put into it.

jazman · 07-30-08, 05:01 PM

Harbor cruising in SH4 is a gamey joke, it's so easy. Yawn. Fluckey did it in real life and got a Medal of Honor.

Seminole · 07-30-08, 06:00 PM

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What happened to all the expensive fancy smancy 'diverters' ?

they don't work....very well...

Sailor Steve · 07-30-08, 06:23 PM

Um, when I said I liked cruising the harbors, I meant looking at the sights while I sailed in and out of port. I've never done a harbor raid, and probably never will.

Orion2012 · 07-30-08, 08:23 PM

I would consider harbor raiding, if it were more realistic and they actually seemed to care.

07-30-08, 06:31 AM	#1
Cpt-Maxim Electrician's Mate Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Great Lakes Area - Ohio Posts: 131 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Total Tonnages So Far - Opinions? Here's a screenshot of the blackboard Top Skippers Scores found in your office at the end of each patrol.. I will update the link to a new photo as new tonnage comes in and total number of patrols changes.. What do ya think? 8 patrols on 100% realism 351,553 total tons. Most recent mission: Photo Recon Tokyo Harbour (lots of sitting ducks this time) Patrol result: 17 merchants, 8 warships, 2 zeroes, 2 search planes. (1 carrier, 2crusiers, 2 DD's, 2 subchasers, 1 gunboat) __________________ You may find me on one of these teamspeak servers: Subsim.com - subsim.teamspeak3.com WWII Battleground Europe, Allied, - ts.wwiionline.com:9988 Elite Dangerous, Gamers Cove - 82.21.87.49

07-30-08, 07:00 AM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I think it's way too easy. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-30-08, 07:46 AM	#3
Seminole Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,012 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	Yeah.... it is like fly fishing a stream where you catch a 10 pound brownie on every cast. After the first couple of days it becomes ho-hum. It is so easy on full realism I have to wonder just what you could accomplish with 0 realism and one of those mods that gives you "super powers" ? Though I ain't about to find out firsthand... __________________

07-30-08, 08:15 AM	#4
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	I'd say it's time to crank up the difficulty with RSRD and TMO, then kill the harbor raids. However your tonnage isn't in the realm of the real gamers, who are bragging about amassing 100k tons in a single cruise without a refit. I figure 30 - 50k per cruise is darn decent with a halfway realistic setup and coming in under 10k isn't unusual. That's still too easy, but that's SH4 with any set of mods so far. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS Last edited by Rockin Robbins; 07-30-08 at 08:49 AM.

07-30-08, 08:19 AM	#5
Quillan Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 579 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I sank 100k tons without a refit in SH3 one time, but it was before GWX and I wasn't using manual targeting then. Besides, most of the kills came through the deck gun because I had a more than 2 week period of calm seas. Since I switched to manual targeting and TMO/RSRD, I consider myself to be doing very well if I sink 20k tons in a patrol. I topped 40k tons once, but the biggest chunk of that came when I got advance radio notice of a BB transit, and caught a Kongo on the way home. __________________ We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

07-30-08, 08:31 AM	#6
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Realistic tonnage would be 'boring'. I can imagine the posts here "I went an entire patrol and all I saw was a fishing boat" Anyhow thats why it is as it is.

07-30-08, 08:51 AM	#7
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Boring for some. I like it when I can be glad I sank something and came home with 8,000 tons. But then I like cruising the harbors, too. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-30-08, 09:11 AM	#8
bammac3 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	All I can say is - Where is that stream, Seminole???????? Bam

07-30-08, 03:31 PM	#11
tomoose Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 930 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Realism If it's too easy then it's not worth playing and quickly gets boring IMHO. I'm currently using Version 1.4 with TMO and RSRD. I just got back from a patrol with nada, zip, niente and yes, I was disappointed but at least I know that historically that was certainly not unusual. My patrol before that I managed to find one ship. Sinking it took some time and manoeuvering and was extremely satisfactory!! The patrol before that I bagged 3 ships and was ecstatic, LOL. I don't 'cruise' the harbours as my orders don't usually give me that leeway. Additionally an 'undefended' harbour is hardly realistic and present no challenge. I've seen some huge numbers in tonnage in SH3 and SH4 which, compared to the famous skippers of the day, are so far off it's laughable. Whatever turns your wheel, I guess. You get out of it what you put into it.

07-30-08, 05:01 PM	#12
jazman Commander Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crush Depth Posts: 449 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Harbor cruising in SH4 is a gamey joke, it's so easy. Yawn. Fluckey did it in real life and got a Medal of Honor. __________________ "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -- Chesterton

07-30-08, 06:23 PM	#14
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Um, when I said I liked cruising the harbors, I meant looking at the sights while I sailed in and out of port. I've never done a harbor raid, and probably never will. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-30-08, 08:23 PM	#15
Orion2012 Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 611 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I would consider harbor raiding, if it were more realistic and they actually seemed to care.