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Old 07-18-08, 05:18 AM   #1
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It is asking a lot to expect one civilian to wade in and fight 30 teenagers. I would have hoped that someone called for additional police to respond.

As civic minded as I am, I don't think I would have tried to take on 30 violent teenagers
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Old 07-18-08, 02:01 PM   #2
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It is asking a lot to expect one civilian to wade in and fight 30 teenagers. I would have hoped that someone called for additional police to respond.

As civic minded as I am, I don't think I would have tried to take on 30 violent teenagers
The thing is if you did wade in and you actually hurt one of the little bastards the police would arrest you for it...

This is the result of the police's own job protection policies
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Old 07-18-08, 03:53 PM   #3
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I'm going to side with Steed on this, if for no other reason than that nobody seems to agree with him.

While I doubt England will become the first nation in history to collapse because of teenagers who will not pick up litter, civil disobedience of this type is often an indicator that one feels repressed and powerless in the face of their government's daily influence on their lives. It also indicates the lack of respect for law enforcement officials, or more probably, the laws they enforce.

Were this incident to be repeated in differing forms on a significant scale, it would indubitably herald at best, political backlash, and at worst, insurrection.

England has a long and proud history of pissing off either its own populace, the rest of Europe and moreso than either of those, Scotland. I will not specifically mention their disputes with Ireland as the Irish seem to be pissed about something all the time. America is honored to fulfill two-thirds of this great legacy, but can probably find a way to piss off Scotland as well if required.

As far as their own populace is concerned, England seems suffering from a condition known as "socialism", which is fairly common in Europe. Early symptoms include wanting everyone else to pay for your stuff, and a complete misunderstanding of economics. The most dangerous symptom of this condition is that you feel fine at first, but then collapse under debt and social upheaval, just like every nation that contracts "socialism".

This incident, when coupled with all the other stories of bad news in England provided by Steed, does seem to indicate the onset of harmful symptoms of "socialism".

Equally worrisome is that the United States has slowly contracted "socialism" over the years. There is strong evidence that "socialism", combined with a large and uneducated populace, leads to Soviet Unions.

In summation, I feel Steed's concerns do warrant his belief in England's imminent collapse to some degree. The contrary opinion, that "everything is fine, we just have some tweaking to do", led to England's original collapse, the collapse of every Authoritarian government in history, the imminent collapse of those that still exist and their current economic problems that will, shortly, result in their collapse, the collapse of the Roman Empire, and the glorious People's prosperity of North Korea and Cuba.

Sadly for Steed, America's collapse will be #1 because we're America.

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Old 07-18-08, 04:03 PM   #4
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Actually UnderseaLcpl I'd say it was too much 'f**K you buddy' capitalism that was ruining western societies.

Considering that the UK is considerably less socialist than it used to be I think you've got the wrong end of the stick there.
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Old 07-18-08, 05:26 PM   #5
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Actually UnderseaLcpl I'd say it was too much 'f**K you buddy' capitalism that was ruining western societies.

Considering that the UK is considerably less socialist than it used to be I think you've got the wrong end of the stick there.
You may be right. England, always a bastion of capitalism unfettered by things like monarchy and a feudalistic societal stratification, could only have lost its' empire because of money-grubbing corporations that wanted to sell off parts of the Empire for free to indiginous peoples. It is abundantly clear that unsustainable goevernment expenditures had nothing to do with that. It was the result of good, old-fashioned British altruism.

Forunately, the U.S has abandoned it's century-long campaign for "progress" to emulate Britain. There is nothing we would enjoy more at the moment than paying for "figurehead" royalty, which we try to do at the box office, paying way too much for gas because of taxes, lack of competition in the petroleum industry, and government-sanctioned lack of competition in the petroleum industry, and enormous debt, which we are currently trying to produce via governement spending, after private spending failed to produce much debt.

As always, we look to England as a country to avoid being anything like, but then later changed our minds becuase we forgot that we used to be part of it, and it sucked.


Praying this is somehow not taken as an insult, rather than sarcasm, or is it?

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Steed, when England goes down, you can come live with me!

That sounds like makings of a great TV sitcom!:hmm:
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Old 07-20-08, 08:02 PM   #7
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Steed, when England goes down, you can come live with me!

That sounds like makings of a great TV sitcom!:hmm:
...of coarse, you'll have to convert. Driving on the correct side of the road, no more spelling "colour" with the "u", it's called soccer now, and you can bitch about gas prices instead of petrol prices.:rotfl:
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