Another baddie bites the dust in America

[Sailor Steve]

Oh no guns are evil if you have a gun the bad guys will just take it away and use it on you if you have a gun in the home you will just shoot a neighbor or a family member can't you see guns are evil?

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Oh no guns are evil if you have a gun the bad guys will just take it away and use it on you if you have a gun in the home you will just shoot a neighbor or a family member can't you see guns are evil?

You just made my want to go lube my guns tonight! Break out the old Miltec-1! My backyard light went off last night (got 300 watts back there for night time intruders ya know) and my gate was open this morning. Someone was in my yard last night.

-S

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

You just made my want to go lube my guns tonight! Break out the old Miltec-1! My backyard light went off last night (got 300 watts back there for night time intruders ya know) and my gate was open this morning. Someone was in my yard last night.

-S

We actually had an incident here in Utah that pulled a funny reverse on one of those comments. Some years ago a thug broke into the home of an elderly couple late at night, hit the old man over the head and started to go through the jewelry box. When the old woman screamed he went back to the bed and started to strangle her. Scrabbling at his chest and stomach she suddenly realised that - you guessed it - he had a gun stuck in his belt. I shouldn't have to explain what happened next.

In this case the baddie might have been better off if he hadn't had a gun.:rotfl:

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb

Good on him. If he'd done that in the UK though he'd be in prison for manslaughter by now, bloody stupid country.

Yea same over here he would of been charged with manslaughter and discharging a firearm.

Crazy.,

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

The only debate i ever see in this subject, is what firearm to use for home defense. I prefer a pump action shotgun. :rotfl:

The article did not mention what type of rifle the home owner had. There are some rifles that are not so appropriate for home defense (over penetration). Probably would not choose a Remington 700 for home defense unless you have a VERY long hallway

Shotguns are usually a good choice although some may be too ungainly to maneuver in tight quarters. But you can't argue about the result. Even if you miss the noise will stun the intruder. And the nice thing is that it is more difficult to miss with a shotgun than it is with a handgun.

One thing I do recommend is that if anyone keeps a shotgun for protection that they hit the range with it. Shotguns are not like big rifles and believe it or not, it IS possible to miss a human size target at 7 meters (seen it in our indoor range )

You don't want the first time you fire a shotgun to be the time you might need two shots quickly.

I am pondering a question concerning my shotgun (old Remington 12ga pump). Right now I have two pistol grips on it. Makes the recoil a bit harsh but makes it easier to maneuver. I am contemplating upgrading to a top folding stock. I have never used one before. I am not sure the folding stock will give me the stability of a fixed stock. If not, then I wonder if I am still better off with my two pistol grips?

[SUBMAN1]

[quote=Platapus]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

The article did not mention what type of rifle the home owner had. There are some rifles that are not so appropriate for home defense (over penetration). Probably would not choose a Remington 700 for home defense unless you have a VERY long hallway ...

Only a buffalo rifle. Best rifle is an AR-15 (if you can afford one), or if you have a big budget ($10K), a fully automatic M-16. Penetration of walls is way less than compared to a .45. However, I do keep a .45 near the bed in case I am surprised at night. You probably don't want surprise me at 3 in the morning! Just a warning!

-S

[nikimcbee]

My neighbours were broken into a few years ago (during the daytime). I wish I could have told the police to tell the stupid teenagers that "they were lucky they didn't climb in the other bathroom window." SKS bayonet or butt of 1864 Springfield musket to the head... or Boston Terrier teeth.

[Jimbuna]

[quote=SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Only a buffalo rifle. Best rifle is an AR-15 (if you can afford one), or if you have a big budget ($10K), a fully automatic M-16. Penetration of walls is way less than compared to a .45. However, I do keep a .45 near the bed in case I am surprised at night. You probably don't want surprise me at 3 in the morning! Just a warning!

-S

I'll be sure to phone you and warn you I am calling round for a nice friendly social visit well in advance

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

My neighbours were broken into a few years ago (during the daytime). I wish I could have told the police to tell the stupid teenagers that "they were lucky they didn't climb in the other bathroom window." SKS bayonet or butt of 1864 Springfield musket to the head... or Boston Terrier teeth.

deja vu

[August]

Originally Posted by Platapus

The article did not mention what type of rifle the home owner had. There are some rifles that are not so appropriate for home defense (over penetration). Probably would not choose a Remington 700 for home defense unless you have a VERY long hallway

Shotguns are usually a good choice although some may be too ungainly to maneuver in tight quarters. But you can't argue about the result. Even if you miss the noise will stun the intruder. And the nice thing is that it is more difficult to miss with a shotgun than it is with a handgun.

One thing I do recommend is that if anyone keeps a shotgun for protection that they hit the range with it. Shotguns are not like big rifles and believe it or not, it IS possible to miss a human size target at 7 meters (seen it in our indoor range )

You don't want the first time you fire a shotgun to be the time you might need two shots quickly.

I am pondering a question concerning my shotgun (old Remington 12ga pump). Right now I have two pistol grips on it. Makes the recoil a bit harsh but makes it easier to maneuver. I am contemplating upgrading to a top folding stock. I have never used one before. I am not sure the folding stock will give me the stability of a fixed stock. If not, then I wonder if I am still better off with my two pistol grips?

I once owned a pistol grip shotgun. Didn't like it. As Niki alludes to, a solid butt stock makes a pretty decent weapon as well.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I'll be sure to phone you and warn you I am calling round for a nice friendly social visit well in advance

I don't have a habit of shooting people that simply ring the doorbell before they enter. So no worries!

-S

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I don't have a habit of shooting people that simply ring the doorbell before they enter. So no worries!

-S

Thank heaven for that

[FIREWALL]

SHOOT THE HOUSE GUEST.

They make less demands on your time.

And no waiting on them hand and foot.:p

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

SHOOT THE HOUSE GUEST.

They make less demands on your time.

And no waiting on them hand and foot.:p

You mean the uninvited house guest!

-S

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

You mean the uninvited house guest!

-S

Inlaws count ???:hmm: