Found a video on how to deal with sunken ship survivors

Originally Posted by Frank0001

At first I thought the Americans shot the pilot who was floating in the sea, but it appears he pulled a grenade himself

Ha ha. This made me think of the hunters in southpark where they yell "OH my god it's comming right for us!" blam!

[Brag]

GoldenRivet,
I hope you are right and our present situation is only temporary and a not prelude to a bigger disaster.

[9th_cow]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Hello,
hmm even when some scenes were constructed, two or three give evidence that they indeed shot at castaways - which the survivors obviously were after suviving a sinking ship, or a crashed plane. Very bad, i have heard of "Mush" Morton and others etc., but to see it ... this definitely is a war crime.
I think some films should probably not be shown in utube or publicly.
Even if it is "the Pacific" and "a lot of hate", why ? Every war starts with one nation attacking another without real warning - why this special hate towards the japanese ? Seems this propaganda machine has once more raised its ugly head.
Greetings,
Catfish

those ppl would be well aware of 2 things, the way the japs treated prisoners and civilians ( they used chinese for bayonet practice) and the fact that there was a high chance that if you did want to save them, there would be a good chance they would blow themselves up anyways, killing your crew.

many probably were full of hate at having to live that life so far away from home, and many probably lost friends.

well at least those are my opinions.

be thankfulll we only do this in a game.

One thing you have to remember about the military. They will give you medals for killing other men and kick you out for loving other men.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Brag

GoldenRivet,
I hope you are right and our present situation is only temporary and a not prelude to a bigger disaster.

me too.

America is starving for unification... only true, capable leadership can deliver it. She has lost her way and is dancing on the knife's edge of disaster.

but i do think (and hope) it is temporary.

of course 'temporary' in terms of the fate of a nation can mean 50 years

[Frank0001]

Originally Posted by Flamingboat

One thing you have to remember about the military. They will give you medals for killing other men and kick you out for loving other men.

Hahaha, a great way of bringing back some humour to this topic...

[Jimbuna]

Very disturbing footage....further evidence of mans inhumanity to his fellow man.

Regardless of individual opinions, let us hope it spurs our present generation on to see that we never see a further repeat of global warfare.

I'm not convinced by watching that video that we are seeing everything.
It's very easy to clip out parts to make it appear as the poster wants.
I know for a fact I have seen parts of that vid where the reason the
crew fired on those near the Sub was because they pulled a gun.
Haveing been in situations like that?
Pull a weapon on me?
You died!

That is a bad example of true life.
But a perfect example of editing to suit your needs.

[GoldenRivet]

your right.

in one scene it appears as if bullets are splashing all around one guy in the water, when upon closer inspection it is clearly a rope landing near him.

a lot of edits make the clips a bit unbelievable at times... not to say it didnt happen, but not nearly as much as the vid suggests

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by privateer

I'm not convinced by watching that video that we are seeing everything.
It's very easy to clip out parts to make it appear as the poster wants.
I know for a fact I have seen parts of that vid where the reason the
crew fired on those near the Sub was because they pulled a gun.
Haveing been in situations like that?
Pull a weapon on me?
You died!

That is a bad example of true life.
But a perfect example of editing to suit your needs.

I reckon you've a valid point there.....take the guy with the Thompson machine gun as an example, why didn't the camera man pan to the right to show what the target was

Sooooo.....no award for the director I'm afraid

Dang it!!

If you dig deep enuff into any countries History there are events we can not
condone today.

Vlad Dracula is pretty much a near perfect example.

In truth?
A Hero and Saviour to his country.
But today the epitome of Evil because of one book.

So, where does the truth lie?
It use to be:
'Don't believe everything you hear!'
And:
'Seeing is believeing!'

Now those are as fake as the vid!

Originally Posted by privateer

That is a bad example of true life.
But a perfect example of editing to suit your needs.

You may be right but I wouldn't go so far as to blame "clever editing" becase the subject matter is uncomfortable. I didn't think some japanese getting shot in the water was all that interesting compared to what was done to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That video is childs play compared to the A-Bombs.

Again though I just posted this because it was a cool color submarine video from WW2. I wasn't trying to be controversial. I thought everyone just knew that a lot of people get messed up in wars, right or wrong. I guess it's different to see the footage.

Originally Posted by jimbuna

let us hope it spurs our present generation on to see that we never see a further repeat of global warfare.

*cough Iraq *cough

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by privateer

If you dig deep enuff into any countries History there are events we can not
condone today.

Vlad Dracula is pretty much a near perfect example.

In truth?
A Hero and Saviour to his country.
But today the epitome of Evil because of one book.

So, where does the truth lie?
It use to be:
'Don't believe everything you hear!'
And:
'Seeing is believeing!'

Now those are as fake as the vid!

The truth is out there....does anyone know the URL