Look what Ducimus did! - Page 2

JREX53 · 04-08-08, 08:18 PM

DavyJonesLocker,

Where does it say in any manual that the Diving Officers position had to
be manned by an officer - none that I am aware of.

I also take offense of you calling a Chief Petty Officer, 1st Class Petty Officer,
or even a 2nd Class Petty Officer a Bilge Rat. Each one of those ranks would
have spent more time on a sub toilet, then you have spent playing the game
or even been on a submarine.

For your information, they would put the best QUALIFIED person in that
position, no matter what his rating was.

JoeCorrado · 04-08-08, 08:46 PM

I am pretty sure that nearly all of us would agree that the modders here like Ducimus and many others should be thanked and appreciated for all the work that they do, all of it just because of their good citizenship to the SH community.

Doesn't matter so much whether we all want to include their mods in our game or not, just the simple fact that they have made the effort and posted the results. Good, bad or otherwise every effort is appreciated and none should ever be criticized or belittled for their efforts. No matter whether their work is targeted to the hard core, the arm chair, or the shooting gallery players- these friends of the community have a little something for everybody. The number one thing in my book that makes the game so fun and always new.

A big thank you to each and every one the modders here. Keep 'em coming!

Kapitan_Phillips · 04-08-08, 08:52 PM

Personally, I dont give a crap who's standing infront of me, as long as they do their job and do it well, I'm happy.

Ducimus · 04-08-08, 08:54 PM

I'd like to reiterate, that this topic is an ant hill.....

It is not, the Sierra Nevada.....

kylesplanet · 04-08-08, 11:47 PM

Well I certainly didn't care for the "Duciboy" comment. Ducimus has put more effort into making SH4 a great game than any single person I can think of. Hell, I don't see how he has managed to keep all of this going like he has, especially working pretty much by himself on a huge mod.

BTW, Ducimus works on the fleetboats. He and a hand full of others (you know who you are) are the ones who will keep the Allied end of the game up so I would suggest a thank you here and there instead of insults. Otherwise, we will all be stuck with another uboat sim within a year or two.

Duci you have my heartfelt thanks for the countless hours you spend making the PTO better, I really do appreciate it.

modisch · 04-09-08, 12:57 AM

When I first read the subject line, I was expecting the first sentence to be:

He made the game more engaging, challenging, and enjoyable for everyone!

At least, that's how I'd have followed it up. What started with him just "Flavoring to taste" quickly became the number one reason I was playing SH4. I have nothing but respect and appreciation for the hairpulling and teethgrinding that it takes to shepherd such a project for so long.

So, thanks Ducimus.

-m

Jimbuna · 04-09-08, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Well, im tired, cranky, irritable, and in many things, im just too burnt out to care anymore. Other then that i make no excuses.

Quote:

Nice mod BTW.

Thanks.

I know one thing. Im never doing/managing a mod this large ever again. What started as a quick fix or unoffical patch to get the game playable, has turned into a "supermod" . I never planned, or intended for this mod to go as far along as it has. It just sort of grew on me. Nowadays, i guess its kinda like trying to keep a 6 foot aligator in a 4 foot fishtank. :rotfl:

I do empathise (the alligator analogy).....It gets me to wondering what analogy might be used when a supermod the size of GWX eventually comes over to SHIV.....perhaps something along the lines of:

'trying to keep a whale in a goldfish bowl' :rotfl: :rotfl:

In the meantime I'll continue to play both and continue to scale that learning curve.

Rockin Robbins · 04-09-08, 07:39 AM

DJFL, you stand accused of disrespect and taunting a senior modder, how do you plead?

You mean Duciboy?

How do you plead?

Why'd they put a bilge rat in the judgeship? I want a REAL judge. You're wearing khakis. What's going on here?

How do you plead? You must plead before I find you guilty and pronounce sentence.

How do I know? I don't even think a bilge rat can be a judge. Don't you look familiar?

Last chance before I adjudicate you guilty without plea and sentence you.

You look just like one of those bilge rats Duciboy put in the control room! What do you think you're pulling? I want a real judge.

I find you guilty of first degree disrespect for a senior modder. I find you guilty of second degree taunting a senior modder. I hereby sentence you to be hung by the neck until you are dead. Sentence to be carried out immediately. Please hurry gentlemen, I have to get back to my other job in the control room.

kikn79 · 04-09-08, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylesplanet

Well I certainly didn't care for the "Duciboy" comment. Ducimus has put more effort into making SH4 a great game than any single person I can think of. Hell, I don't see how he has managed to keep all of this going like he has, especially working pretty much by himself on a huge mod.

BTW, Ducimus works on the fleetboats. He and a hand full of others (you know who you are) are the ones who will keep the Allied end of the game up so I would suggest a thank you here and there instead of insults. Otherwise, we will all be stuck with another uboat sim within a year or two.

Duci you have my heartfelt thanks for the countless hours you spend making the PTO better, I really do appreciate it.

Well said!!! I agree whole heartedly!!

"Duciboy" is THE MAN!!!!

Chuck

danlisa · 04-09-08, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

I find you guilty of first degree disrespect for a senior modder.

RR, I find you guilty of insulting Duciboy.

How dare you reference him as 'senior' ageism has no place at Subsim.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

I find you guilty of second degree taunting a senior modder.

Strike two! You're walking a fine line here young man.

One more and you can hang by your left nut.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BS over. There is no hierarchy at Subsim. Please don't place people into groups, Senior, Junior or Muppet. We're all the same regardless.

Dowly · 04-09-08, 07:56 AM

Oh for poo's sake! Yes, the title is a bit of a two barreled thingy, but who judges a post by it's title? Isnt it what is in the actualy post that matters?

Right, the original post says:

"I find a Bilge Rat as a Dive Officer instead of the original officer. That don't seem right as sometimes the DO has an officer's cap. Anyway to change this?"

A simple question, ok nothing bad at that, I mean, this is the SH4 forum with the helpfull and open atmosphere right?

Ok, next Ducimus replies:

"If i bothered to explain the design decisions involved in that, would it make a difference?

By the way, the "bildge rat" that you sometimes see with an officers cap, is a chief petty officer. In stock, they wore all kahki's with an officers cap. I changed them to kahki pants, blue shirt, and officers cap - a mix of the two so their easier to distinguish from an officer and the enlisted crewman."

Ok, again, a simple reply, nothing bad in it.

Now, the next one is what this thread seems to have grown to be about:

"Yeah, it would make a difference, Duciboy."

and immediatly after that he asks Ducimus, "is this historically correct".

To which Ducimus does answer and kindly adds "Fifthly, nobodies making you use the mod. If you don't like it, change it yourself, or use another mod and stop wasting my time." to the end.

So, my question is, who did what and when? Because I certainly cant see anything else than two members having a small go at each other. Both could've replied in a bit friendlier tone.

PS. What's wrong with 'Duciboy'?

DavyJonesFootlocker · 04-09-08, 08:05 AM

Ok, ok. First off I'm not accusing Ducimus about anything. I'm asking the reasons behind his changes, that's all. My language can get a bit misunderstood I said 'Duciboy' and 'Bilge Rat' in no malicious term. In his FAQ he said we can make changes so I didn't ask him to make any changes for me. All I wanted to know was how. Geez, talk about flying off the handle. Think I'm gonna open a window and escape to the free world. I agree this has blown out of size. I like TMO gameplay.

bluedingo · 04-09-08, 08:44 AM

First off, this isn't a comment against DavyFonesFootLocker.
Here's a little message for any critics of mod-makers who aren't being constructive.

Oh, and constructive comment. According to www.juliett484.org, the OOD is in the precisely correct place. Nice job.

TDK1044 · 04-09-08, 09:03 AM

If we took all the hot air generated by a small group of very talented modders, we'd have enough steam for a very large sauna. But then we'd have people complaining about how intense the steam should be.

Buy the game. Install the game. Mod the game to taste and enjoy it.

We spend about a third of our lives sleeping and about a third of our lives working. Are we really going to waste any of the remaing third on this kind of nonsense?

Nurse...the screens!

Dowly · 04-09-08, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDK1044

If we took all the hot air generated by a small group of very talented modders, we'd have enough steam for a very large sauna. But then we'd have people complaining about how intense the steam should be.

Buy the game. Install the game. Mod the game to taste and enjoy it.

We spend about a third of our lives sleeping and about a third of our lives working. Are we really going to waste any of the remaing third on this kind of nonsense?

Nurse...the screens!

Yes. :p

04-08-08, 08:18 PM	#16
JREX53 Frogman Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 300 Downloads: 353 Uploads: 13	DavyJonesLocker, Where does it say in any manual that the Diving Officers position had to be manned by an officer - none that I am aware of. I also take offense of you calling a Chief Petty Officer, 1st Class Petty Officer, or even a 2nd Class Petty Officer a Bilge Rat. Each one of those ranks would have spent more time on a sub toilet, then you have spent playing the game or even been on a submarine. For your information, they would put the best QUALIFIED person in that position, no matter what his rating was. __________________ Jim

04-08-08, 08:46 PM	#17
JoeCorrado Weps Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 366 Downloads: 176 Uploads: 5	I am pretty sure that nearly all of us would agree that the modders here like Ducimus and many others should be thanked and appreciated for all the work that they do, all of it just because of their good citizenship to the SH community. Doesn't matter so much whether we all want to include their mods in our game or not, just the simple fact that they have made the effort and posted the results. Good, bad or otherwise every effort is appreciated and none should ever be criticized or belittled for their efforts. No matter whether their work is targeted to the hard core, the arm chair, or the shooting gallery players- these friends of the community have a little something for everybody. The number one thing in my book that makes the game so fun and always new. A big thank you to each and every one the modders here. Keep 'em coming! __________________ ============= My Game starts with GFO - Keepin' it real as it needs to be!

04-08-08, 08:52 PM	#18
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,903 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	Personally, I dont give a crap who's standing infront of me, as long as they do their job and do it well, I'm happy. __________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.

04-08-08, 11:47 PM	#20
kylesplanet Commodore Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 629 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Well I certainly didn't care for the "Duciboy" comment. Ducimus has put more effort into making SH4 a great game than any single person I can think of. Hell, I don't see how he has managed to keep all of this going like he has, especially working pretty much by himself on a huge mod. BTW, Ducimus works on the fleetboats. He and a hand full of others (you know who you are) are the ones who will keep the Allied end of the game up so I would suggest a thank you here and there instead of insults. Otherwise, we will all be stuck with another uboat sim within a year or two. Duci you have my heartfelt thanks for the countless hours you spend making the PTO better, I really do appreciate it. __________________

04-09-08, 07:39 AM	#23
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Court will now come to order DJFL, you stand accused of disrespect and taunting a senior modder, how do you plead? You mean Duciboy? How do you plead? Why'd they put a bilge rat in the judgeship? I want a REAL judge. You're wearing khakis. What's going on here? How do you plead? You must plead before I find you guilty and pronounce sentence. How do I know? I don't even think a bilge rat can be a judge. Don't you look familiar? Last chance before I adjudicate you guilty without plea and sentence you. You look just like one of those bilge rats Duciboy put in the control room! What do you think you're pulling? I want a real judge. I find you guilty of first degree disrespect for a senior modder. I find you guilty of second degree taunting a senior modder. I hereby sentence you to be hung by the neck until you are dead. Sentence to be carried out immediately. Please hurry gentlemen, I have to get back to my other job in the control room. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

04-08-08, 08:54 PM	#19
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I'd like to reiterate, that this topic is an ant hill..... It is not, the Sierra Nevada.....

04-09-08, 12:57 AM	#21
modisch Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia (USA) Posts: 113 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	When I first read the subject line, I was expecting the first sentence to be: He made the game more engaging, challenging, and enjoyable for everyone! At least, that's how I'd have followed it up. What started with him just "Flavoring to taste" quickly became the number one reason I was playing SH4. I have nothing but respect and appreciation for the hairpulling and teethgrinding that it takes to shepherd such a project for so long. So, thanks Ducimus. -m

04-09-08, 07:56 AM	#26
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,054 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Oh for poo's sake! Yes, the title is a bit of a two barreled thingy, but who judges a post by it's title? Isnt it what is in the actualy post that matters? Right, the original post says: "I find a Bilge Rat as a Dive Officer instead of the original officer. That don't seem right as sometimes the DO has an officer's cap. Anyway to change this?" A simple question, ok nothing bad at that, I mean, this is the SH4 forum with the helpfull and open atmosphere right? Ok, next Ducimus replies: "If i bothered to explain the design decisions involved in that, would it make a difference? By the way, the "bildge rat" that you sometimes see with an officers cap, is a chief petty officer. In stock, they wore all kahki's with an officers cap. I changed them to kahki pants, blue shirt, and officers cap - a mix of the two so their easier to distinguish from an officer and the enlisted crewman." Ok, again, a simple reply, nothing bad in it. Now, the next one is what this thread seems to have grown to be about: "Yeah, it would make a difference, Duciboy." and immediatly after that he asks Ducimus, "is this historically correct". To which Ducimus does answer and kindly adds "Fifthly, nobodies making you use the mod. If you don't like it, change it yourself, or use another mod and stop wasting my time." to the end. So, my question is, who did what and when? Because I certainly cant see anything else than two members having a small go at each other. Both could've replied in a bit friendlier tone. PS. What's wrong with 'Duciboy'?

04-09-08, 08:05 AM	#27
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	Ok, ok. First off I'm not accusing Ducimus about anything. I'm asking the reasons behind his changes, that's all. My language can get a bit misunderstood I said 'Duciboy' and 'Bilge Rat' in no malicious term. In his FAQ he said we can make changes so I didn't ask him to make any changes for me. All I wanted to know was how. Geez, talk about flying off the handle. Think I'm gonna open a window and escape to the free world. I agree this has blown out of size. I like TMO gameplay. __________________ "Silence means death. Stand on your feet. Inner fear your worst enemy."- Sepultura. My Silent Hunter 5 mantra is this......"Torpedo missed, sir!" A P-400 is a P-40 with a Zero after it. A proud member of the Wikipedia Haters Club

04-09-08, 08:44 AM	#28
bluedingo Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	First off, this isn't a comment against DavyFonesFootLocker. Here's a little message for any critics of mod-makers who aren't being constructive. Oh, and constructive comment. According to www.juliett484.org, the OOD is in the precisely correct place. Nice job. Last edited by bluedingo; 04-09-08 at 09:04 AM.

04-09-08, 09:03 AM	#29
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	If we took all the hot air generated by a small group of very talented modders, we'd have enough steam for a very large sauna. But then we'd have people complaining about how intense the steam should be. Buy the game. Install the game. Mod the game to taste and enjoy it. We spend about a third of our lives sleeping and about a third of our lives working. Are we really going to waste any of the remaing third on this kind of nonsense? Nurse...the screens!