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Old 02-13-08, 05:35 PM   #16
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Hey hey hey, what's with all this PETA hate in there? I happen to be a bonafide member of that organization. Yes sir, People Eating Tastey Animals is a great organization. When you cook my steak you better slap it on the grill just to get the grill marks on it. I poke it with a fork and it tries to run away from me.
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Old 02-13-08, 05:39 PM   #17
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You can not get moral conclusions from logic.
Unless you have found a way round the is-ought gap.

PETA may be a irrational conclusion from Darwinism, but that just shows peta is
irrational and we all know that.
You think its irrational, and I think its irrational, but they think we are irrational, so this is defintitely not a moral conclusion since whos morals are we talking about? A Darwanist has no morals. Morals simply do not exist in Darwinism, and no Darwanist yet can show morals in Darwinism without turning into a babling wreck based on self interest that is clearly wrong as seen by any plain man. This is where Darwinism fails miserably as a theory, such as trying to explain 'Alltruism'. It can not explain this adequately and has more holes that makes even a shotgun approach miss completely. THis is why I personally believe it is all grey area when pure Darwanist see all in black and white.

So do not come at me from a moral perspective here. That will fail miserably.

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Old 02-13-08, 05:39 PM   #18
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Hey hey hey, what's with all this PETA hate in there? I happen to be a bonafide member of that organization. Yes sir, People Eating Tastey Animals is a great organization. When you cook my steak you better slap it on the grill just to get the grill marks on it. I poke it with a fork and it tries to run away from me.
Try sticking a fork in me and I reckon I'd be running away from you
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Old 02-13-08, 05:40 PM   #19
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Hey hey hey, what's with all this PETA hate in there? I happen to be a bonafide member of that organization. Yes sir, People Eating Tastey Animals is a great organization. When you cook my steak you better slap it on the grill just to get the grill marks on it. I poke it with a fork and it tries to run away from me.
Oh - that is its good side. the other PETA is its evil cousin! We aren't talking about PETA, we are talking about PETA!!

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Old 02-13-08, 05:47 PM   #20
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Oh, thanks for clearing that up. Seriously though, I have a freezer full of deer meat and I still have some spicey deer smokies. I wonder what that PETA would think of that?

I have a buddy that I have been friends with since we were kids. I will never forget the time I was over there and his sister decided that she was a vegan. It was salisbury steak I was having over there with his family. It's always that darn salisbury steak. In any event, she grew up to be a raging liberal. The moral of the story is if your 10 year old daughter annouces she is a vegatarian you better nip that in the bud damn quick before she becomes a total idiot. By the way there was a period of time she thought she was a lesbian too but that is another story.
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Old 02-13-08, 05:54 PM   #21
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You know a few years ago I took pictures of myself wearing a bear-fur coat and had my brother-in-law shoot a photo of me when I went to the Canadian seal hunts... and I posted them on the official PETA website!:rotfl:

If ONLY you could see the responses... if only you could see them... :rotfl:
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Old 02-13-08, 05:58 PM   #22
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boy are they nazis
Shall we ask uncle Adolf.
We can't, he retired a long time ago remember??

maybe we should ask their ringleader Frau Anderson :hmm:

Stealth Hunter.. you have a link to that post?? i want to read them :rotfl:
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You know a few years ago I took pictures of myself wearing a bear-fur coat and had my brother-in-law shoot a photo of me when I went to the Canadian seal hunts... and I posted them on the official PETA website!:rotfl:

If ONLY you could see the responses... if only you could see them... :rotfl:
Do it again! I want to see!

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Old 02-13-08, 06:02 PM   #24
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You know a few years ago I took pictures of myself wearing a bear-fur coat and had my brother-in-law shoot a photo of me when I went to the Canadian seal hunts... and I posted them on the official PETA website!:rotfl:

If ONLY you could see the responses... if only you could see them... :rotfl:
As long as you weren't dressed up as a wolf

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boy are they nazis
Shall we ask uncle Adolf.
We can't, he retired a long time ago remember??
There's always a catch.
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You know a few years ago I took pictures of myself wearing a bear-fur coat and had my brother-in-law shoot a photo of me when I went to the Canadian seal hunts... and I posted them on the official PETA website!:rotfl:

If ONLY you could see the responses... if only you could see them... :rotfl:
As long as you weren't dressed up as a wolf

My god... I've found it...

My NEW and OFFICIAL U-boat emblem! Watch out, Tommy and Yankee-Doodle, I've got the most ferocious beast of all coming for you!!:rotfl: :rotfl:
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Old 02-15-08, 06:12 AM   #27
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You can not get moral conclusions from logic.
Unless you have found a way round the is-ought gap.

PETA may be a irrational conclusion from Darwinism, but that just shows peta is
irrational and we all know that.
You think its irrational, and I think its irrational, but they think we are irrational, so this is defintitely not a moral conclusion since whos morals are we talking about? A Darwanist has no morals. Morals simply do not exist in Darwinism, and no Darwanist yet can show morals in Darwinism without turning into a babling wreck based on self interest that is clearly wrong as seen by any plain man. This is where Darwinism fails miserably as a theory, such as trying to explain 'Alltruism'. It can not explain this adequately and has more holes that makes even a shotgun approach miss completely. THis is why I personally believe it is all grey area when pure Darwanist see all in black and white.

So do not come at me from a moral perspective here. That will fail miserably.

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Of course there are no morals in Dawinism!
Just like there are no morals in the theory of gravity or the way steel rusts in salt
water. Thats my point!
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Originally Posted by Letum
You can not get moral conclusions from logic.
Unless you have found a way round the is-ought gap.

PETA may be a irrational conclusion from Darwinism, but that just shows peta is
irrational and we all know that.
You think its irrational, and I think its irrational, but they think we are irrational, so this is defintitely not a moral conclusion since whos morals are we talking about? A Darwanist has no morals. Morals simply do not exist in Darwinism, and no Darwanist yet can show morals in Darwinism without turning into a babling wreck based on self interest that is clearly wrong as seen by any plain man. This is where Darwinism fails miserably as a theory, such as trying to explain 'Alltruism'. It can not explain this adequately and has more holes that makes even a shotgun approach miss completely. THis is why I personally believe it is all grey area when pure Darwanist see all in black and white.

So do not come at me from a moral perspective here. That will fail miserably.

-S
When you are talking about Darwinism what exactly do you mean by that?

As I understand it Letum is correct Darwinism is not concerned with morality its a scientific theory.

Plus I don't see how the PETA is the conclusion of Darwinism.
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Old 02-15-08, 08:15 AM   #29
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You have all been brainwashed. The Dog Revolution has succeeded.

http://www.obeythepurebreed.com/

Nikimcbee is their infiltrated agent among us. You people talk to a dog and don't even realize anymore.

http://www.cafepress.com/dogs_of_war/177724
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The moral of the story is if your 10 year old daughter annouces she is a vegatarian you better nip that in the bud damn quick before she becomes a total idiot. By the way there was a period of time she thought she was a lesbian too but that is another story.
Damn kids and their opinions. Gotta crush that soon or they'll start thinking.

Looking for morals in a scientific theory is......unusual.
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