PETA likens dog breeders to the KKK

SUBMAN1 · 02-13-08, 12:49 PM

Nice.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...e-dog-show/?hp

I guess you can't fault PETA too much no matter how idiotic their ideas are. Why? Simple. It is the logical conclusion to the ideas of pure Darwinism. You are nothing more that an animal with two opposable thumbs competing for survival on this planet. Forget any idea about human dignity. An ant is an equal in PETA's and Darwanists eyes.

See now where this idea of pure Darwinism is taking us? PETA is your answer.

Animal Crackers strike again.

-S

3Jane · 02-13-08, 01:02 PM

You bring a whole new meaning to the term 'missing the point' :rotfl:

SUBMAN1 · 02-13-08, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 3Jane

You bring a whole new meaning to the term 'missing the point' :rotfl:

There is no point missed here. It is just another one of PETA's stupid ideas shown in public. How many you want? I've got 1000's!

Based on your reply, I'd have to gather that you missed my point completely.

-S

Kapitan_Phillips · 02-13-08, 02:22 PM

PETA - The evidence that the first amendment needs to be refined

STEED · 02-13-08, 02:50 PM

BLONDIE

Jimbuna · 02-13-08, 02:58 PM

No doubt they'll have some powerful supporters in the halls of power

"dog breeders to the Ku Klux Klan"

Letum · 02-13-08, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

It is the logical conclusion to the ideas of pure Darwinism. You are nothing more that an animal with two opposable thumbs competing for survival on this planet. Forget any idea about human dignity. An ant is an equal in PETA's and Darwanists eyes.

See now where this idea of pure Darwinism is taking us? PETA is your answer.

Are your moral principles really so flimsy that you would think it fit to abandon them if
you believed that animals, bacteria and viruses change over generations depending on
their environment?

Oh, and boo to peta etc.

SUBMAN1 · 02-13-08, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Are your moral princibles really so flimsy that you would think it fit to abandon them if
you belived that animals, bacteria and viruses change over generations depending on
their enviroment?

I didn't say that didn't happen, and you can't deny that PETA is not the logical conclusion of Darwanism either.

Face it - you already know your future!

-S

Letum · 02-13-08, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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Originally Posted by Letum

Are your moral princibles really so flimsy that you would think it fit to abandon them if
you belived that animals, bacteria and viruses change over generations depending on
their enviroment?

I didn't say that didn't happen, and you can't deny that PETA is not the logical conclusion of Darwanism either.

Face it - you already know your future!

You can not get moral conclusions from logic.
Unless you have found a way round the is-ought gap.

PETA may be a irrational conclusion from Darwinism, but that just shows peta is
irrational and we all know that.

The WosMan · 02-13-08, 05:35 PM

Hey hey hey, what's with all this PETA hate in there? I happen to be a bonafide member of that organization. Yes sir, People Eating Tastey Animals is a great organization. When you cook my steak you better slap it on the grill just to get the grill marks on it. I poke it with a fork and it tries to run away from me.

Jimbuna · 02-13-08, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The WosMan

Hey hey hey, what's with all this PETA hate in there? I happen to be a bonafide member of that organization. Yes sir, People Eating Tastey Animals is a great organization. When you cook my steak you better slap it on the grill just to get the grill marks on it. I poke it with a fork and it tries to run away from me.

Try sticking a fork in me and I reckon I'd be running away from you

SUBMAN1 · 02-13-08, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The WosMan

Hey hey hey, what's with all this PETA hate in there? I happen to be a bonafide member of that organization. Yes sir, People Eating Tastey Animals is a great organization. When you cook my steak you better slap it on the grill just to get the grill marks on it. I poke it with a fork and it tries to run away from me.

Oh - that is its good side. the other PETA is its evil cousin!

We aren't talking about PETA, we are talking about PETA!!

-S

SUBMAN1 · 02-13-08, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

You can not get moral conclusions from logic.
Unless you have found a way round the is-ought gap.

PETA may be a irrational conclusion from Darwinism, but that just shows peta is
irrational and we all know that.

You think its irrational, and I think its irrational, but they think we are irrational, so this is defintitely not a moral conclusion since whos morals are we talking about? A Darwanist has no morals. Morals simply do not exist in Darwinism, and no Darwanist yet can show morals in Darwinism without turning into a babling wreck based on self interest that is clearly wrong as seen by any plain man. This is where Darwinism fails miserably as a theory, such as trying to explain 'Alltruism'. It can not explain this adequately and has more holes that makes even a shotgun approach miss completely. THis is why I personally believe it is all grey area when pure Darwanist see all in black and white.

So do not come at me from a moral perspective here. That will fail miserably.

-S

Letum · 02-15-08, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

You can not get moral conclusions from logic.
Unless you have found a way round the is-ought gap.

PETA may be a irrational conclusion from Darwinism, but that just shows peta is
irrational and we all know that.

You think its irrational, and I think its irrational, but they think we are irrational, so this is defintitely not a moral conclusion since whos morals are we talking about? A Darwanist has no morals. Morals simply do not exist in Darwinism, and no Darwanist yet can show morals in Darwinism without turning into a babling wreck based on self interest that is clearly wrong as seen by any plain man. This is where Darwinism fails miserably as a theory, such as trying to explain 'Alltruism'. It can not explain this adequately and has more holes that makes even a shotgun approach miss completely. THis is why I personally believe it is all grey area when pure Darwanist see all in black and white.

So do not come at me from a moral perspective here. That will fail miserably.

-S

Of course there are no morals in Dawinism!
Just like there are no morals in the theory of gravity or the way steel rusts in salt
water. Thats my point!

mrbeast · 02-15-08, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

You can not get moral conclusions from logic.
Unless you have found a way round the is-ought gap.

PETA may be a irrational conclusion from Darwinism, but that just shows peta is
irrational and we all know that.

You think its irrational, and I think its irrational, but they think we are irrational, so this is defintitely not a moral conclusion since whos morals are we talking about? A Darwanist has no morals. Morals simply do not exist in Darwinism, and no Darwanist yet can show morals in Darwinism without turning into a babling wreck based on self interest that is clearly wrong as seen by any plain man. This is where Darwinism fails miserably as a theory, such as trying to explain 'Alltruism'. It can not explain this adequately and has more holes that makes even a shotgun approach miss completely. THis is why I personally believe it is all grey area when pure Darwanist see all in black and white.

So do not come at me from a moral perspective here. That will fail miserably.

-S

When you are talking about Darwinism what exactly do you mean by that?

As I understand it Letum is correct Darwinism is not concerned with morality its a scientific theory.

Plus I don't see how the PETA is the conclusion of Darwinism.

02-13-08, 12:49 PM	#1
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	PETA likens dog breeders to the KKK Nice. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...e-dog-show/?hp I guess you can't fault PETA too much no matter how idiotic their ideas are. Why? Simple. It is the logical conclusion to the ideas of pure Darwinism. You are nothing more that an animal with two opposable thumbs competing for survival on this planet. Forget any idea about human dignity. An ant is an equal in PETA's and Darwanists eyes. See now where this idea of pure Darwinism is taking us? PETA is your answer. Animal Crackers strike again. -S __________________

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,445 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	No doubt they'll have some powerful supporters in the halls of power "dog breeders to the Ku Klux Klan" __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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The WosMan Watch Officer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: OH Posts: 332 Downloads: 88 Uploads: 0	Hey hey hey, what's with all this PETA hate in there? I happen to be a bonafide member of that organization. Yes sir, People Eating Tastey Animals is a great organization. When you cook my steak you better slap it on the grill just to get the grill marks on it. I poke it with a fork and it tries to run away from me.