What would you do?

RickC Sniper · 02-07-08, 02:28 PM

I have a duo core 6600 and the same video card as you.

I get 60 fps in external view (v sync enabled) and only slight chop at high TC when around a port.

Your pc should run this game fine.

walrusbomb · 02-07-08, 02:37 PM

I would start with cleaning the registry (winASO)

I would move on to malware (spybot, ad aware)

Free virus scans come next (AVG)

nice clean reboot before moving on to the boot-config. are you playing your 3D games with the bare minimum 15 Processes? No? why on Earth not? Create a custom boot config just for games. watch your heavy-load framerates double or triple!

I have half the machine you have:

A64 3500+
1GB value RAM
Nvidia 7950GT 512MB RAM

And I play with everything on MAX 1400x900 (20-60 FPS). See the Screenshot thread, I posted shots this morning. If you're just itching to spend money, I'll be more than happy to kick you in the nuts for a crisp $100 -- far cheaper than letting these component manufacturers continue to kick you in the nuts every 1.5 years.

DavyJonesFootlocker · 02-07-08, 02:46 PM

There's a thread for this called SubSum's Outpatient Service.

Taurolas · 02-07-08, 03:00 PM

dude.

i have even less than walrusbomb 3000 amd 1 gb ram old asus mb with agp slot and a ATI 2600 hd pro card and i'm running SH4 with everything maxed.

i'm wondering if you have hardware compatibility issues somewhere along the line... peeps with similar rigs and lower processors / cards have no probs at all... very odd.

Zantham · 02-07-08, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Dual Boot Vista Ultimate / XP
Core 2 Duo E 6700
Gigabyte P965-DS3 Rev 2
4X1GB OCZ Plat Rev 2 PC 6400
SB X-FI Platinum Fatal1ty Champion Series
Logitech Z-5500 (Fiber Optic)
ATI X1950 XTX
Benq 22in WS
Raid 1 Vista, 500 GB XP, 500 GB Storage Drive

Lol yeah i think a computer like this is what a lot of people around here would upgrade 'to', not upgrade 'from'! The only thing that would slow a system like this down in a game like SH4 is if you have max AA 16xHQ enabled or something.. that 'might' slow your graphics down a little.

peabody · 02-07-08, 03:38 PM

I would get a loan and do both!

Seriously, if you could use some stuff from the old computer but have a mobo that would handle both DDR2 and DDR3 it is do-able. DDR3 if you check specs really isn't worth the extra you get out of it right now. And I don't know what else you do with the computer but SH relies on a good video card while other games don't. I have a Gigabyte P965 Mobo right now because the 35s and 38s are not up to snuff right now. They are not getting enough of a %tage of increase to justify the extra cost or replacing what I have. I got 2GB of dual channel DDR2 800mhz Corsair XMS2 (which is one of the best as far as I am conserned.) And I got it at Newegg for $49 after rebate. Try comparing that to DDR3. Right now there is matched pair of 2X1GB Corsiar for $34. But check the mobo specs some of the boards need 1.8v, these are 2.1v. The DDR3s that I am seeing are over $200. And the RAM is not that big a deal as much as the Video card. The increase in speed, because other parts come into play ,right now is not signifigant. I would wait for the next big jump and lower prices and consentrate on the video card for now. Just my 10 cents..(inflation) I just checked and you can get the 800mhz for $34 right now, the 1.9v and this stuff is fully capable of overclocking. And most Gigabyte boards are too.

As for a surround sound system, my son in law and I have seem them all. (not really) and unless you have a theater specifically set up for this again the baddest system in the world isn't going to make as much difference as a properly set up room. Acoustic wise that is. So you can get system a bit under $1000 that are just as good in the normal home. I wouldn't go with el cheapo set, that will not be as good.

Anyway just my opinion.

Peabody

Torps · 02-07-08, 04:05 PM

The thing is guys the latest cards are PCI-E X 16 2.0. MY mobo supports 1.0 not 2.0 so no matter what I will need a new mobo for a the better graphics card, if and when I update the processor I will need a new mobo and my current mobo does not support both DDR2 and DDR3 which some do.(Save money on memory and use my DDR2 800)

I will mess with the settings but the thing is the 1950xtx does not produce the halo effect for more then a few seconds once every full moon. I play other demanding games so the card cant handle those.

I know about the AV, anti spy stuff, registry cleaners etc; my system is clean, I run it everyday I even have Diskeeper 2008 pro premier which helps substanitally with performance in and out of games. Diskeeper helped with my frame rates about 10-15 fps+ by optimizing file placement on the HD. My boot time for XP is 20 seconds. I got this thing really tricked out so to speak, I just feel either the card or the drivers are not up to par. Catalyst 7.4 is what I am using, I have tried everything else and my frame rates dropped. I have my "Storage Drive" everything is on there, only thing on my c drive is the OS and programs, thats it.

Thank you guys for the advice. If you have any other ideas please throw them my way.

Zantham · 02-07-08, 04:42 PM

Well you can look at it this way:

You already have a modern, fast computer. Do you already have a nice modern surround-sound system?

The only upgrade worth doing to your system is not a whole new system... at most I'd consider dropping in a fast GeForce 8800GT 512MB for under $300. Your screen is a 22" which means it runs at 1680x1050 maximum. Now if you were running a 30" screen at 2560x1600 I could see upgrading your video card to a 8800GTX or Ultra, but really, that 1950 of yours should handle any game at max graphics at 1680x1050, sans antialiasing possibly, for a while yet. I'm counting on my single 8800GTX to run all my games at 2560x1600 till next winter, and currently there isnt a game out there I don't run at max settings, except lowering the AA levels. I do have 4GB RAM but my CPU is slower than yours (quad core 2.4GHz, currently not overclocked; quad does nothing for gaming over dual core currently).

02-07-08, 02:28 PM	#1
RickC Sniper Undetectable Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,221 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	I have a duo core 6600 and the same video card as you. I get 60 fps in external view (v sync enabled) and only slight chop at high TC when around a port. Your pc should run this game fine. __________________ Support Subsim http://www.subsim.com/store.html

02-07-08, 02:37 PM	#2
walrusbomb Planesman Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 180 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I would start with cleaning the registry (winASO) I would move on to malware (spybot, ad aware) Free virus scans come next (AVG) nice clean reboot before moving on to the boot-config. are you playing your 3D games with the bare minimum 15 Processes? No? why on Earth not? Create a custom boot config just for games. watch your heavy-load framerates double or triple! I have half the machine you have: A64 3500+ 1GB value RAM Nvidia 7950GT 512MB RAM And I play with everything on MAX 1400x900 (20-60 FPS). See the Screenshot thread, I posted shots this morning. If you're just itching to spend money, I'll be more than happy to kick you in the nuts for a crisp $100 -- far cheaper than letting these component manufacturers continue to kick you in the nuts every 1.5 years. Last edited by walrusbomb; 02-07-08 at 02:53 PM.

02-07-08, 02:46 PM	#3
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02-07-08, 03:00 PM	#4
Taurolas Medic Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Notts UK Posts: 163 Downloads: 167 Uploads: 0	dude. i have even less than walrusbomb 3000 amd 1 gb ram old asus mb with agp slot and a ATI 2600 hd pro card and i'm running SH4 with everything maxed. i'm wondering if you have hardware compatibility issues somewhere along the line... peeps with similar rigs and lower processors / cards have no probs at all... very odd. __________________ Yarrr!

02-07-08, 04:05 PM	#7
Torps Captain Join Date: May 2007 Location: Phoenix Posts: 496 Downloads: 148 Uploads: 0	hmm The thing is guys the latest cards are PCI-E X 16 2.0. MY mobo supports 1.0 not 2.0 so no matter what I will need a new mobo for a the better graphics card, if and when I update the processor I will need a new mobo and my current mobo does not support both DDR2 and DDR3 which some do.(Save money on memory and use my DDR2 800) I will mess with the settings but the thing is the 1950xtx does not produce the halo effect for more then a few seconds once every full moon. I play other demanding games so the card cant handle those. I know about the AV, anti spy stuff, registry cleaners etc; my system is clean, I run it everyday I even have Diskeeper 2008 pro premier which helps substanitally with performance in and out of games. Diskeeper helped with my frame rates about 10-15 fps+ by optimizing file placement on the HD. My boot time for XP is 20 seconds. I got this thing really tricked out so to speak, I just feel either the card or the drivers are not up to par. Catalyst 7.4 is what I am using, I have tried everything else and my frame rates dropped. I have my "Storage Drive" everything is on there, only thing on my c drive is the OS and programs, thats it. Thank you guys for the advice. If you have any other ideas please throw them my way. __________________ Torps Contributor PE for ROW Reflections on Water *ROW Sound Effects* R.I.P Dave Bunnel aka LeoVampire

02-07-08, 03:38 PM	#6
peabody Admiral Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York State, USA Posts: 2,390 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 7	I would get a loan and do both! Seriously, if you could use some stuff from the old computer but have a mobo that would handle both DDR2 and DDR3 it is do-able. DDR3 if you check specs really isn't worth the extra you get out of it right now. And I don't know what else you do with the computer but SH relies on a good video card while other games don't. I have a Gigabyte P965 Mobo right now because the 35s and 38s are not up to snuff right now. They are not getting enough of a %tage of increase to justify the extra cost or replacing what I have. I got 2GB of dual channel DDR2 800mhz Corsair XMS2 (which is one of the best as far as I am conserned.) And I got it at Newegg for $49 after rebate. Try comparing that to DDR3. Right now there is matched pair of 2X1GB Corsiar for $34. But check the mobo specs some of the boards need 1.8v, these are 2.1v. The DDR3s that I am seeing are over $200. And the RAM is not that big a deal as much as the Video card. The increase in speed, because other parts come into play ,right now is not signifigant. I would wait for the next big jump and lower prices and consentrate on the video card for now. Just my 10 cents..(inflation) I just checked and you can get the 800mhz for $34 right now, the 1.9v and this stuff is fully capable of overclocking. And most Gigabyte boards are too. As for a surround sound system, my son in law and I have seem them all. (not really) and unless you have a theater specifically set up for this again the baddest system in the world isn't going to make as much difference as a properly set up room. Acoustic wise that is. So you can get system a bit under $1000 that are just as good in the normal home. I wouldn't go with el cheapo set, that will not be as good. Anyway just my opinion. Peabody

02-07-08, 04:42 PM	#8
Zantham 中国水兵 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 283 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 1	Well you can look at it this way: You already have a modern, fast computer. Do you already have a nice modern surround-sound system? The only upgrade worth doing to your system is not a whole new system... at most I'd consider dropping in a fast GeForce 8800GT 512MB for under $300. Your screen is a 22" which means it runs at 1680x1050 maximum. Now if you were running a 30" screen at 2560x1600 I could see upgrading your video card to a 8800GTX or Ultra, but really, that 1950 of yours should handle any game at max graphics at 1680x1050, sans antialiasing possibly, for a while yet. I'm counting on my single 8800GTX to run all my games at 2560x1600 till next winter, and currently there isnt a game out there I don't run at max settings, except lowering the AA levels. I do have 4GB RAM but my CPU is slower than yours (quad core 2.4GHz, currently not overclocked; quad does nothing for gaming over dual core currently).