SH4 - what engine improvements? (no flames!)

Linavitch · 01-28-08, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fincuan

The newest Trigger Maru features these

Sort of. Clicking the helmsman in SH4 takes you straight to the nav map. In SH3 it brings up several options of reports, plot course etc.

GlobalExplorer · 01-28-08, 05:31 PM

It's only the hardware that held me back for almost a year. SHIV did simply run like **** on my system, and he graphics OOB looked pretty crappy when compared to SHIII. Hell at that time AA wasnt even enabled.

Looking at all those great screenshots now and with a really fast computer in the planning stage, it's probably time to give the game a second chance.

How does the AI fare? Is the game difficult enough?

What about the weather? Does it make more sense than in SHIII (i.e. not a thunderstorm after 2 days on every patrol).

AVGWarhawk · 01-28-08, 05:35 PM

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How does the AI fare? Is the game difficult enough?

What about the weather? Does it make more sense than in SHIII (i.e. not a thunderstorm after 2 days on every patrol).

I thought AI out of the box was not bad really. It has a nice mix of rookie to really nasty. You never know what you are going to get. TM and RFB mods have made them even better.

Weather is great and you can watch it change if you want. No more 3 months of rain and fog. It is quite dynamic. Download ROW and sha'zam beautiful screenshots.

Rockin Robbins · 01-28-08, 06:06 PM

One down, three to go. You can see the TDC setup. The water is warmer than it was before. Make the move!

Errr.... sorry, forgot you said no flames!:rotfl:

MarkShot · 01-28-08, 06:25 PM

I just got bitten by the "save/reload" bug. Pretty irritating knowing how easy this is to program right!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=129875

AVGWarhawk · 01-28-08, 06:55 PM

What flames????

AVGWarhawk · 01-28-08, 06:57 PM

I'm going to flame you again

Rockin Robbins · 01-28-08, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkShot

I just got bitten by the "save/reload" bug. Pretty irritating knowing how easy this is to program right!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=129875

Because like I said, I've done hundreds of saves without regard for situation, including during an approach, being depth charged, surfaced, submerged, whatever and no problems. I have read of a very few problems but I consider the game stabile and predictable in that regard.

You agree with me that save/reload bugs are compeletely inexcusable! That's a first. But since it was the final straw that pushed me into SH4, I'm grateful. SH4 has never let me down.

Rockin Robbins · 01-28-08, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkShot

I just got bitten by the "save/reload" bug. Pretty irritating knowing how easy this is to program right!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=129875

Because like I said, I've done hundreds of saves without regard for situation, including during an approach, being depth charged, surfaced, submerged, whatever and no problems. I have read of a very few problems but I consider the game reliable in that regard.

You agree with me that save/reload bugs are compeletely inexcusable! That's a first. (I got mostly snide "of course you can't save the game when..." comments when I posted in the SH3 forum) But since it was the final straw that pushed me into SH4, I'm grateful. SH4 has never let me down. I consider SH3 broken in spite of all its patches, none of which has touched that fatal problem.

RickC Sniper · 01-28-08, 10:31 PM

@Markshot

As stated, yes sh4 has working thermals. SH3 with GWX is a great game. SH4 out of box patched to 1.4 is a very good game. Some, however, just prefer the theatre of the Atlantic. Much of this is just choice or preference.

SH4 modded with the current mods is a beauty. Bigger boats, longer patrols, bigger torpedo loadouts than a uboat, a new, very well made American TDC to learn if you play manual TDC. Adequate enemy AI in stock, Very challenging when modded. (TM supermod is highly recommended for an experienced captain like you)

I like subsims. I cannot imagine someone who likes subsims not giving SH4 a test run. You can always uninstall it but I'll bet a dollar against a doughnut that you won't.

01-28-08, 05:31 PM	#2
GlobalExplorer Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,015 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	It's only the hardware that held me back for almost a year. SHIV did simply run like **** on my system, and he graphics OOB looked pretty crappy when compared to SHIII. Hell at that time AA wasnt even enabled. Looking at all those great screenshots now and with a really fast computer in the planning stage, it's probably time to give the game a second chance. How does the AI fare? Is the game difficult enough? What about the weather? Does it make more sense than in SHIII (i.e. not a thunderstorm after 2 days on every patrol). __________________

01-28-08, 06:06 PM	#4
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	One down, three to go. You can see the TDC setup. The water is warmer than it was before. Make the move! Errr.... sorry, forgot you said no flames!:rotfl: __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

01-28-08, 06:25 PM	#5
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	I just got bitten by the "save/reload" bug. Pretty irritating knowing how easy this is to program right! http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=129875 __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)!

01-28-08, 06:55 PM	#6
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,286 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	What flames???? __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

01-28-08, 06:57 PM	#7
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,286 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I'm going to flame you again __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

01-28-08, 10:31 PM	#10
RickC Sniper Undetectable Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,221 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	@Markshot As stated, yes sh4 has working thermals. SH3 with GWX is a great game. SH4 out of box patched to 1.4 is a very good game. Some, however, just prefer the theatre of the Atlantic. Much of this is just choice or preference. SH4 modded with the current mods is a beauty. Bigger boats, longer patrols, bigger torpedo loadouts than a uboat, a new, very well made American TDC to learn if you play manual TDC. Adequate enemy AI in stock, Very challenging when modded. (TM supermod is highly recommended for an experienced captain like you) I like subsims. I cannot imagine someone who likes subsims not giving SH4 a test run. You can always uninstall it but I'll bet a dollar against a doughnut that you won't. __________________ Support Subsim http://www.subsim.com/store.html