Black artifacts in the sky - Page 4

Samwolf · 12-21-07, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lopo

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Thanks

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Originally Posted by Samwolf

Anyone who is having this graphics problem and is willing to try a test, I have a 16km mod that uses different envcolors and skycolors files.

Use JSGME to enable it after the GWX 16KM mod and let us know if it fixes your problem. I used it to fix a graphic problem I was having with my Nvidea 7800GS. Be aware that this mod will also lighten up your night sky.

It's about a 1000KB zip file and JSGME ready, if interested let me know and I can either e-mail it to you or put it on filefront.

Yes, please I'm very interested by your solution and I'm ready to try a test.
I have a Pentium IV with a GeForce 8800 GT with 2 Mb RAM, I'm running 1280x1024 75 Hertz...
Thanks

Sorry...
I still have the same problems... have removed 16km mod.

It was worth a shot, appears to be a difference between the 7 and 8 series cards.

Marko_Ramius · 12-21-07, 05:30 PM

I agree with "vertical synchro" on, is better, and even with my CRT monitor. Who really needs more than 75/85 Fps in game ?

About black Artefacts in sky and mod spoken by Samwolf, i said in another post :

" I'm trying the mod you spoke above, Samwolf. And for the moment, this is so far so good, for the brighter nights !! Thanks.

I don't see real things different with these files except the brighter night, so it's great.

Unfortunately, this doesn't cure the black artifacts seen in sky for the 8800 cards. I still have them. This thing is really a mistery. "

I remember have tried 8Km GWX, and stil have those strange artefacts. But in a very, very low amount, but still there ..

It seems there is no such artefacts in looking in periscope, or UZO :hmm:. Strange !

And i say again, with my ati rig, no such artefacts :hmm:

Lopo · 12-21-07, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Samwolf

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Originally Posted by Lopo

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Originally Posted by Lopo

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samwolf

Anyone who is having this graphics problem and is willing to try a test, I have a 16km mod that uses different envcolors and skycolors files.

Use JSGME to enable it after the GWX 16KM mod and let us know if it fixes your problem. I used it to fix a graphic problem I was having with my Nvidea 7800GS. Be aware that this mod will also lighten up your night sky.

It's about a 1000KB zip file and JSGME ready, if interested let me know and I can either e-mail it to you or put it on filefront.

Yes, please I'm very interested by your solution and I'm ready to try a test.
I have a Pentium IV with a GeForce 8800 GT with 2 Mb RAM, I'm running 1280x1024 75 Hertz...
Thanks

Sorry...
I still have the same problems... have removed 16km mod.

It was worth a shot, appears to be a difference between the 7 and 8 series cards.

Yes, I believe too... I haven't these artifacts with my last 7 series card.

Skubber · 12-23-07, 12:59 PM

Reporting back:

Samwolf's solution did not work in my case. (Although I certainly appreciate the attempt.)

The black triangles are about 2-3 times larger in size with the 16k mod (in my case.)

I am going to stick with the 8k version and just put up with it. My initial sense is that the video synchronization does reduce the flickering somewhat - and it doesn't perceptibly slow my system.

One thing someone mentioned that puzzles me -- why should this flaw in the skyline occur with the "naked eye" and not when using any of the ocular enhancements?
Anyone?

dcb · 12-23-07, 04:11 PM

I think I got the solution.
By opening scene.dat with the MiniTweaker, the last value is Horizon = 2000. I increased it to 3000 and this got rid of the artifacts, at least in my case.

Panama_Red · 12-23-07, 07:27 PM

I had the black flashes on my new ATI 3870 cards using drivers 7.11. When I upgraded to drivers 7.12, it all went away (and this is using both the GWX's and my own 16km mods).

With my mod, you can actually see up to 17km before the ships disappear.

Kpt. Lehmann · 12-23-07, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Panama Red

I had the black flashes on my new ATI 3870 cards using drivers 7.11. When I upgraded to drivers 7.12, it all went away (and this is using both the GWX's and my own 16km mods).

With my mod, you can actually see up to 17km before the ships disappear.

Where is your mod located?

12-23-07, 08:26 PM

@dcb

I do not see that entry in Mini tweaker.
Could you post a screen shot?

dcb · 12-23-07, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

@dcb

I do not see that entry in Mini tweaker.
Could you post a screen shot?

I really don't know how to post screenshots here. I can send one on your e-mail address, if provided. I can also send you the scene.dat.txt file I used for the minitweaker.

Meanwhile, check this thread, post no. 29 by Reece. This explains that the Horizon variable sets the distance at which the game renders the horizon. With Horizon = 3000, the horizon line puts the black artefacts at 24 kms in theory, but too far for the game to render them actually, so this is why we cannot see them any more.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...t=horizon+2000

12-23-07, 11:05 PM

PM sent.

dcb · 12-24-07, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by privateer

PM sent.

And answered.

12-24-07, 12:45 AM

Got it all thanks.

I see now why I was a bit confussed.
It's in the EnvData chunk and is actually one of the Camera settings.
I'll adjust several of my installs and see if I can varify your fix.

Again, Thanks!!

Oh, and are you using the 16k mod?

12-24-07, 01:03 AM

I'd say that's a close start!

16k mod hammers my system but I got no black thingys.
using the stock 8k I adjusted from 1000 to 2000 and they were gone,
but there were side effects.
Try adjusting from 2000 up in smaller scales.
Say from 2000 to 2100 and so forth.
A 1/3 rd jump is quit a bit!!

dcb · 12-24-07, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by privateer

I'd say that's a close start!

16k mod hammers my system but I got no black thingys.
using the stock 8k I adjusted from 1000 to 2000 and they were gone,
but there were side effects.
Try adjusting from 2000 up in smaller scales.
Say from 2000 to 2100 and so forth.
A 1/3 rd jump is quit a bit!!

Yes, I'm using the 16 km mod and this solved the problem without giving me any side-effect even with Horizon = 3000. But I have a pretty strong system, able to cope even with the skydome at 24 kms

(no bragging here, just a fact).

rik007 · 12-24-07, 09:20 AM

I do not find a variable Horizon in the scene.dat.txt. So i seem to have a different version. Can somebody PM me the correct tweak-file?

12-23-07, 12:59 PM	#49
Skubber Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rochester, NY, USA Posts: 239 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Reporting back: Samwolf's solution did not work in my case. (Although I certainly appreciate the attempt.) The black triangles are about 2-3 times larger in size with the 16k mod (in my case.) I am going to stick with the 8k version and just put up with it. My initial sense is that the video synchronization does reduce the flickering somewhat - and it doesn't perceptibly slow my system. One thing someone mentioned that puzzles me -- why should this flaw in the skyline occur with the "naked eye" and not when using any of the ocular enhancements? Anyone? __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." - Captain John Paul Jones, 1778

12-21-07, 05:30 PM	#47
Marko_Ramius Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Near Paris Posts: 303 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 0	I agree with "vertical synchro" on, is better, and even with my CRT monitor. Who really needs more than 75/85 Fps in game ? About black Artefacts in sky and mod spoken by Samwolf, i said in another post : " I'm trying the mod you spoke above, Samwolf. And for the moment, this is so far so good, for the brighter nights !! Thanks. I don't see real things different with these files except the brighter night, so it's great. Unfortunately, this doesn't cure the black artifacts seen in sky for the 8800 cards. I still have them. This thing is really a mistery. " I remember have tried 8Km GWX, and stil have those strange artefacts. But in a very, very low amount, but still there .. It seems there is no such artefacts in looking in periscope, or UZO :hmm:. Strange ! And i say again, with my ati rig, no such artefacts :hmm:

12-23-07, 04:11 PM	#50
dcb Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 845 Downloads: 544 Uploads: 0	I think I got the solution. By opening scene.dat with the MiniTweaker, the last value is Horizon = 2000. I increased it to 3000 and this got rid of the artifacts, at least in my case.

12-23-07, 07:27 PM	#51
Panama_Red Ensign Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 229 Downloads: 260 Uploads: 0	I had the black flashes on my new ATI 3870 cards using drivers 7.11. When I upgraded to drivers 7.12, it all went away (and this is using both the GWX's and my own 16km mods). With my mod, you can actually see up to 17km before the ships disappear.

12-23-07, 08:26 PM	#53
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	@dcb I do not see that entry in Mini tweaker. Could you post a screen shot?

12-23-07, 11:05 PM	#55
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	PM sent.

12-24-07, 12:45 AM	#57
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Got it all thanks. I see now why I was a bit confussed. It's in the EnvData chunk and is actually one of the Camera settings. I'll adjust several of my installs and see if I can varify your fix. Again, Thanks!! Oh, and are you using the 16k mod?

12-24-07, 01:03 AM	#58
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I'd say that's a close start! 16k mod hammers my system but I got no black thingys. using the stock 8k I adjusted from 1000 to 2000 and they were gone, but there were side effects. Try adjusting from 2000 up in smaller scales. Say from 2000 to 2100 and so forth. A 1/3 rd jump is quit a bit!!

12-24-07, 09:20 AM	#60
rik007 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 785 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	I do not find a variable Horizon in the scene.dat.txt. So i seem to have a different version. Can somebody PM me the correct tweak-file?