GWX2: Question on AI subs

Woof1701 · 12-14-07, 06:44 AM

Hi GWX team

There's a question that's been bugging me ever since I first got my hands on the GWX2 manual. It says in there that all AI subs will only stay on the surface and will not be able to use their deck guns. Now if I remember correctly, in GWX 1.03 the subs were scripted to either run surfaced OR submerged, while the surfaced boats attacked ships with the deck guns but the submerged boats being more or less helpless.

In GWX 1.03 I used Sergbutos AI sub mod with virtual torpedoes in order to get some wolfpack feeling, but if now all the subs run on the surface
and cannot even use the deck guns they will be slaughtered immediately by the escorts near the convoy. right?

Jimbuna · 12-14-07, 07:26 AM

I don't have the manual in front of me (currently at work), but AI surface subs should and can use their deck guns

Mush Martin · 12-14-07, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

(currently at work)

Koondawg · 12-14-07, 08:44 AM

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I don't have the manual in front of me

AND HERE I THOUGHT Jimbo you were a walking manual...gosh :rotfl:

Jimbuna · 12-14-07, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Koondawg

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I don't have the manual in front of me

AND HERE I THOUGHT Jimbo you were a walking manual...gosh :rotfl:

You can view the online manual via the link below my sig

Woof1701 · 12-14-07, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

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Originally Posted by Koondawg

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I don't have the manual in front of me

AND HERE I THOUGHT Jimbo you were a walking manual...gosh :rotfl:

You can view the online manual via the link below my sig

To quote the manual: "The Type VIIC U-boat resides only on the surface; it
can fire neither its torpedoes nor its deck gun due to stock Silent Hunter III limitations, but it can fire its antiaircraft guns; these will increase as the war goes on."

So this is wrong? Ok. Then what about the submerged boats with the scripted wolfpacks? Not there either, or am I mixing something up here?

BTW: I'm not sure how to interpret that sentence:
"The T-class submarine will appear on patrol in surface configuration anywhere in GWX."

U49 · 12-14-07, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Woof1701

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

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Originally Posted by Koondawg

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I don't have the manual in front of me

AND HERE I THOUGHT Jimbo you were a walking manual...gosh :rotfl:

You can view the online manual via the link below my sig

To quote the manual: "The Type VIIC U-boat resides only on the surface; it
can fire neither its torpedoes nor its deck gun due to stock Silent Hunter III limitations, but it can fire its antiaircraft guns; these will increase as the war goes on."

So this is wrong? Ok. Then what about the submerged boats with the scripted wolfpacks? Not there either, or am I mixing something up here?

BTW: I'm not sure how to interpret that sentence:
"The T-class submarine will appear on patrol in surface configuration anywhere in GWX."

Choices
a) Update the manual ??
b) Update GWX ??
c) any good reason for a possible downgrade .....

I still need to go home tomorrow to start my weekend and to find out that stuff myself for sure

Laffertytig · 12-14-07, 01:02 PM

i thought the way GWX had implemented wolfpacks was that ships would be scripted to explode to create the illusion that AI subs were attackin the convoy, dd's would then goto investigate or do i have that wrong?

Kpt. Lehmann · 12-14-07, 02:38 PM

Y'all stop panickin'!

Soon as I can get free enough to do a full write-up on how and why the AI subs in GWX 2.0 are the way that they are... I/we will.

For now, all I can say is that they are functioning in GWX the way that we intended. Will clarify any/all AI sub matters as soon as I can okay guys?

Sheesh!!!... You guys are tough customers.

PS: Laffertytig, we did not script ships to 'explode.' I don't even think that is possible to do, mate.

JU_88 · 12-14-07, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Laffertytig

i thought the way GWX had implemented wolfpacks was that ships would be scripted to explode to create the illusion that AI subs were attackin the convoy, dd's would then goto investigate or do i have that wrong?

As the Kpt said - it doesnt happen, Serges virtual torpedo mod would be a damn sight better than that anyway, not sure if its compatible though.... anyone tried it? :hmm:

Wolfehunter · 12-14-07, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

Sheesh!!!... You guys are tough customers.

Wait till the public release day.!!!

Better get some tumbs or pepto.

JU_88 · 12-14-07, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

Sheesh!!!... You guys are tough customers.

Wait till the public release day.!!!

Better get some tumbs or pepto.

On the public release day we are all going to run away and hide under the bed:rotfl:

mikaelanderlund · 12-14-07, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JU_88

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Originally Posted by Laffertytig

i thought the way GWX had implemented wolfpacks was that ships would be scripted to explode to create the illusion that AI subs were attackin the convoy, dd's would then goto investigate or do i have that wrong?

As the Kpt said - it doesnt happen, Serges virtual torpedo mod would be a damn sight better than that anyway, not sure if its compatible though.... anyone tried it? :hmm:

Yes it is but You need to script-in the sub VIIA from the Sergbuto's wolfpack mod to have it in the campaign and you need shells.dat, .sim, .zon in Sergbutos Library mod 2.0. It is a very cool mod with real exploding torpedos

Nerazzurri · 12-14-07, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JU_88

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

Sheesh!!!... You guys are tough customers.

Wait till the public release day.!!!

Better get some tumbs or pepto.

On the public release day we are all going to run away and hide under the bed:rotfl:

LOL You could still be found by there by diving and using the hydrophones!!

Kpt. Lehmann · 12-14-07, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mikaelanderlund

...with real exploding torpedos

That is incorrect mate. Sergbuto's mod uses an invisible cannon shell to simulate a torpedo.

12-14-07, 06:44 AM	#1
Woof1701 Commodore Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Munich, Germany, Home of U-96 Posts: 633 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	GWX2: Question on AI subs Hi GWX team There's a question that's been bugging me ever since I first got my hands on the GWX2 manual. It says in there that all AI subs will only stay on the surface and will not be able to use their deck guns. Now if I remember correctly, in GWX 1.03 the subs were scripted to either run surfaced OR submerged, while the surfaced boats attacked ships with the deck guns but the submerged boats being more or less helpless. In GWX 1.03 I used Sergbutos AI sub mod with virtual torpedoes in order to get some wolfpack feeling, but if now all the subs run on the surface and cannot even use the deck guns they will be slaughtered immediately by the escorts near the convoy. right?

12-14-07, 07:26 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,561 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I don't have the manual in front of me (currently at work), but AI surface subs should and can use their deck guns __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-14-07, 02:38 PM	#9
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,994 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Y'all stop panickin'! Soon as I can get free enough to do a full write-up on how and why the AI subs in GWX 2.0 are the way that they are... I/we will. For now, all I can say is that they are functioning in GWX the way that we intended. Will clarify any/all AI sub matters as soon as I can okay guys? Sheesh!!!... You guys are tough customers. PS: Laffertytig, we did not script ships to 'explode.' I don't even think that is possible to do, mate. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

12-14-07, 01:02 PM	#8
Laffertytig Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 757 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	i thought the way GWX had implemented wolfpacks was that ships would be scripted to explode to create the illusion that AI subs were attackin the convoy, dd's would then goto investigate or do i have that wrong?