Sorting the Sheep from the Greywolves - Page 3

kiwi_2005 · 12-05-07, 03:30 AM

Take the enemy on or die trying.

Oberon · 12-05-07, 06:25 AM

I came close to giving one of the five destroyers that were harrassing me a torpedo yesterday, they'd all run out of D/Cs and I was beginning to get nervous about my Battery, CO2 and O2 supply, but thankfully, seven hours after they started, they sodded off and left me alone.

robj250 · 12-05-07, 06:53 AM

I didn't vote because the options were not suitable for my choices.

Normally, on my way to my grid zone and come across a lone warship, I'll take her out if the situation allows it.

If I'm attacking a convoy, I prefer nights and/or bad weather. I'll take out as many merchants as I can. But, when I'm being bothered by an escort, I'll try to take it out. But if that is not possible, then I'll go deep and sneak away.

However, I never attack a convoy in shallow waters.

I have just engaged a convoy at night and in bad weather and was able to take out two ships before a J Class DD came after me and I had to go deep, then silent running at 1 kt manouvering to get away. This time I had some top damage. I managed to get away and surface and make my repairs and load my externals. Now, there were two Troop Transports in that convoy, so, I'm going to shadow it and hope the weather stays bad and when it is suitable, I'm go in and take out those two transports and anything else I can. I'd love to take out that J Class DD which caused me to cut off my attack and gave my ship some damage.

I will be posting my attack sometime today as soon as I get it up on Youtube.

Rob

Mush Martin · 12-05-07, 07:02 AM

Danke herr Rob Danke

still its about what feels more comfortable
not necessarly are you limited to a single approach
you should vote with your feelings.
M

robj250 · 12-05-07, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mush Martin

OK lads Im concerned that in 60 yrs we havent learned that
the best defence is a good offence.

who among you when in contact with enemy escorts dives
deep and goes silent

or

who among you grapple with the enemy at Peridepth.

Okay Mush Martin, I voted and I'm surprised there are so many which "Go Deep and Go Quiet".

Hey, Donitz sent the boats out to take on the enemy, preferably, but can't you take on a warship?????

Take out a warship and it takes the enemy (well in the real world) more time to build more escorts.

Mush Martin · 12-05-07, 09:52 AM

it was a viable strategem that I feel Doenitz should have tried in the
first two years of the war.

the extreme shortage of escorts in the early war indicated a vulnerability
that should have been exploited.

The assault on escorts yeilds long term dividends in the enemys overall
vulnerability.

M

Herr_Pete · 12-05-07, 10:01 AM

I tend to stay on periscope depth no matter what im up against. Il stay at silent running n keep the scope as low down as possible! i don;t like to go down deep n then come back up and have to move myself into a better position. keep track of what happening. Obviosuly il go deep if the situation gets out of hand.

I also like to go for the front escorts. If i manage top take them out il stay on periscope depth and go ahead flank so i am in closer then back to silent running. Then work from there. So far so good.

Jonathan · 12-05-07, 11:52 AM

Remember, we're using unterseeboots here...not battleships.

Thunder · 12-05-07, 01:01 PM

I normally do a Kretchmer, and go deep into a convoy , then shack up next to one of the slower merchies,real close, the escorts try to get you but don't, for fear of the merchant, so they circle round, and when they do...
In the early war years it possible to take out all the escorts,even with manual firing(300 meters roughly) ,sure you use alot of torpedoes,sometimes all but if its a calm day and the escorts are taken care of, you go up top and its a wolf in the henhouse...

just stay real close to the merchant.

Wreford-Brown · 12-05-07, 04:42 PM

PD and hammer them.
It can get very expensive in acoustic torps!

Oberon · 12-06-07, 03:04 PM

Just to show I'm not always a sheep...

I didn't have enough time to get out of the way, so I stuck to the surface and hammered it out with torps and deckgun. Cost me 50% hull and an officer for 15K tonnes.

Mush Martin · 12-06-07, 03:06 PM

No one would accuse you of sheepish behaviour even before this
action.

condolences to the widow of your crewman and to the officers
and men of your Boat.
M

Oberon · 12-06-07, 03:24 PM

Thanks Mush, won't seem the same without him. I'm very lucky that the TIIs I fired in vain at it before he came into proper gun fire range actually hit. Had to limp back to Wilhelmshaven, but received a Ritterkreuz mit Eichenlaub...I'm having a word with Uncle Karl about getting a Ritterkreuz for my departed watch officer.

Mush Martin · 12-06-07, 03:29 PM

So guys when were talking about Oberon please kindly in the spirit
of sympathy use the word Mutton.
:rotfl:
M out

STEED · 12-06-07, 03:45 PM

I am

View Poll Results: Which is your preference ?
Go Deep and Go Quiet	86	68.25%
Go Big or Stay Home	40	31.75%
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12-05-07, 03:30 AM	#31
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12-05-07, 07:02 AM	#34
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Danke herr Rob Danke still its about what feels more comfortable not necessarly are you limited to a single approach you should vote with your feelings. M __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

12-05-07, 09:52 AM	#36
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	it was a viable strategem that I feel Doenitz should have tried in the first two years of the war. the extreme shortage of escorts in the early war indicated a vulnerability that should have been exploited. The assault on escorts yeilds long term dividends in the enemys overall vulnerability. M __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

12-05-07, 11:52 AM	#38
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12-05-07, 06:25 AM	#32
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I came close to giving one of the five destroyers that were harrassing me a torpedo yesterday, they'd all run out of D/Cs and I was beginning to get nervous about my Battery, CO2 and O2 supply, but thankfully, seven hours after they started, they sodded off and left me alone.

12-05-07, 06:53 AM	#33
robj250 Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Port Hardy, BC, Canada 75 yo with M.S. & C.O.P.D. & heart problems Posts: 1,930 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I didn't vote because the options were not suitable for my choices. Normally, on my way to my grid zone and come across a lone warship, I'll take her out if the situation allows it. If I'm attacking a convoy, I prefer nights and/or bad weather. I'll take out as many merchants as I can. But, when I'm being bothered by an escort, I'll try to take it out. But if that is not possible, then I'll go deep and sneak away. However, I never attack a convoy in shallow waters. I have just engaged a convoy at night and in bad weather and was able to take out two ships before a J Class DD came after me and I had to go deep, then silent running at 1 kt manouvering to get away. This time I had some top damage. I managed to get away and surface and make my repairs and load my externals. Now, there were two Troop Transports in that convoy, so, I'm going to shadow it and hope the weather stays bad and when it is suitable, I'm go in and take out those two transports and anything else I can. I'd love to take out that J Class DD which caused me to cut off my attack and gave my ship some damage. I will be posting my attack sometime today as soon as I get it up on Youtube. Rob

12-05-07, 10:01 AM	#37
Herr_Pete Commodore Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 623 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	I tend to stay on periscope depth no matter what im up against. Il stay at silent running n keep the scope as low down as possible! i don;t like to go down deep n then come back up and have to move myself into a better position. keep track of what happening. Obviosuly il go deep if the situation gets out of hand. I also like to go for the front escorts. If i manage top take them out il stay on periscope depth and go ahead flank so i am in closer then back to silent running. Then work from there. So far so good.

12-05-07, 01:01 PM	#39
Thunder Soundman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: cape Town Posts: 142 Downloads: 182 Uploads: 0	I normally do a Kretchmer, and go deep into a convoy , then shack up next to one of the slower merchies,real close, the escorts try to get you but don't, for fear of the merchant, so they circle round, and when they do... In the early war years it possible to take out all the escorts,even with manual firing(300 meters roughly) ,sure you use alot of torpedoes,sometimes all but if its a calm day and the escorts are taken care of, you go up top and its a wolf in the henhouse... just stay real close to the merchant.

12-05-07, 04:42 PM	#40
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	PD and hammer them. It can get very expensive in acoustic torps!

12-06-07, 03:04 PM	#41
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Just to show I'm not always a sheep... I didn't have enough time to get out of the way, so I stuck to the surface and hammered it out with torps and deckgun. Cost me 50% hull and an officer for 15K tonnes.

12-06-07, 03:06 PM	#42
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	No one would accuse you of sheepish behaviour even before this action. condolences to the widow of your crewman and to the officers and men of your Boat. M __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

12-06-07, 03:24 PM	#43
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Thanks Mush, won't seem the same without him. I'm very lucky that the TIIs I fired in vain at it before he came into proper gun fire range actually hit. Had to limp back to Wilhelmshaven, but received a Ritterkreuz mit Eichenlaub...I'm having a word with Uncle Karl about getting a Ritterkreuz for my departed watch officer.

12-06-07, 03:29 PM	#44
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	So guys when were talking about Oberon please kindly in the spirit of sympathy use the word Mutton. :rotfl: M out __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

12-06-07, 03:45 PM	#45
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