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Mush Martin 12-03-07 09:03 PM

Sorting the Sheep from the Greywolves
 
OK lads Im concerned that in 60 yrs we havent learned that
the best defence is a good offence.

who among you when in contact with enemy escorts dives
deep and goes silent

or

who among you grapple with the enemy at Peridepth.

ReallyDedPoet 12-03-07 09:06 PM

You know my story on this one, be interesting to hear what others have to add. The majority of the time I go deep on this one on the rare occassion I will stary close to the surface and try and launch some eels, but this has proven costly for me on more than a few occassions.


RDP

Jonathan 12-03-07 09:07 PM

I have not run into any convoys yet, but typcially I go low and slow...and then come back hard with the deck gun.

headcase 12-03-07 09:42 PM

Depends on the situation. HK groups or convoy escorts? Weather conditions, including night. What I currently have for an ordanance loadout. How good is my crew? What is the current state/ attitude/ relative position of my Boat. I try to evaluate the entire situation, and make the call based on what I can do with a reasonable chance of sucess and survival. Everything I put on the bottom hurts the enemy. And the longer I can avoid being put there hurts them even more.

Mush Martin 12-03-07 09:47 PM

I admit I had considered a neutral option but I decided that what I meant
was your preference what comes more naturally to you
M

Chock 12-03-07 09:58 PM

Normally I prefer going for long shots with several simultaneous hits on things by timing the shots, so hopefully I never get into trouble, but if it comes to close stuff I generally stay close, go deep and hide under the convoy, then when the escorts get bored or look in the wrong place, I sometimes come up and have a crack at them, the deciding factor usually being how many tubes and fish I have and how good I think they are. It requires a lot of careful listening on the hydrophones, but I think that's one of the fun parts of the sim to be honest.

If it isn't favourable, I'll feck off in the opposite direction. So neither one nor the other, but both, depending on how good they are.

:D Chock

Mush Martin 12-03-07 10:00 PM

Well I endorse the simultaneous first strike method for sure.

No warning
too late
no detection

good pass.
M

headcase 12-03-07 11:03 PM

Sink 'em all. I just try not to do anything too stupid.

TarJak 12-03-07 11:22 PM

It is really situational with me. Mostly I avoid the escorts as much as possible, but when there is an opportunity too good to resist I'll give them a red hot go.

d@rk51d3 12-03-07 11:25 PM

It depends what the escorts are escorting. If it's a few small ships, I'll ignore it and slip away. If the target's big enough, go in with tubes blazing and send the lot to the bottom.

Brer Rabbit 12-03-07 11:26 PM

Slow and quiet, in order to fight another day. To paraphrase an old military addage: There are Old Kapitans and there are Bold Kapitans, but there are on Old Bold Kapitans.

Mush Martin 12-03-07 11:40 PM

The Reasoned argument

less consumed air
better situational awareness
escort weapons a danger to themselves
although reduced shooting times targets are larger
Eliminated escorts are permanent evaded escorts arent.
although the turning fight consumes your power faster
its over faster and the pickens can come after a recharge
or if equipped you can use schnorkel in game at least
to make sudden high speed maneuvers in evasion or positioning.
this often solicits perimiter escorts to fire inadvertantly on the
escorts in close proximity to you causing a protracted friendly fire
issue between the escorts. and removing you from there attention
also its somewhat more stimulating than sitting on bottom for hours.
:arrgh!:M

Oberon 12-04-07 05:38 AM

If it's a lone warship then I'll see about taking a shot, however if it's a group of the sods, then I steer WELL clear, at the moment anyway, primarily because I'm usually in shallow water when I come across them.

JohnnyBlaze 12-04-07 08:43 AM

With an Uber boot like yours (in the picture) I would happily stay on the surface, but with my standard IXB I rather dive deep and go silent just to fight another day as it was pointed out by Mr. Brer Rabbit


hmm I just realized that it's been well over 3 months of my last visit here at the Subsim. Clad to see some familiar "faces" still around

Mush Martin 12-04-07 09:11 AM

In this case I did mean Standard subs I still stay up even in a typeII
for the above stated advantages of the position.
M

[edit] especially in a type II as I need the
enemies D/C's as I dont have enough
torpedos without cheating on the reloads.


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