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Old 11-20-07, 01:02 PM   #1
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Not sure about the 6" guns being available but I think your ammo idea for the 4" is a good one. Easier than making a new gun!

Looking Good!!!!
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Old 11-20-07, 01:03 PM   #2
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Dam, that looks pretty good Ducimus


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Old 11-20-07, 02:41 PM   #3
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I have to wonder if im using the wrong boat model.

Can you tell which is which?



How about from this angle?


I just assumed the porpoise was smaller. And well, it is, a *little* bit, but it's also a little bit wider as well i think.


I used the sargo; pimarly because of asthetics.


I like the lookouts up in the periscope shears, but if you check here:
http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167b.htm
You'll see that the Narwhal's shears weren't that high. I could try using the Porpoises conning tower i suppose. I also used the sargo, because i like the ammunition stores being modled, i dont think any other boat model does this.


Another astheric reason i picked on the sargo was because of the aft main deck.

I just think it makes the boat look a bit more special - not neccessarly historically correct. Also, the sargo has the rear netguard for the propellers, the porpoise doesnt, sort of a pet peeve.


There main reason for my examining the porpoise more closely, is because i can't get rid of tubes 7 and 8. The tubes are a data array in the sim file, and i can't edit them out. So i do some micky mouse BS with tubes 7 and 8, or i switch to the porpoise for the historically correct torpedo tube arrangement.
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Old 11-20-07, 03:31 PM   #4
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I love it when a plan is coming together.
Looking very good

The main difference that gave the Narwhal away was, aside from the bigger size (Really huge), the deck gun platforms. So yes, I think the Sargo looks overall more appropiate, but then again the torpedo tube layout is not correct. Given that I play without external views normally, I think I personally would prefer the Porpoise as base, but that's only my opinion :hmm:
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Old 11-20-07, 03:43 PM   #5
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Heres some more screenshots. I was going to make this a poll, instead, ill just ask readers to post either Porpoise, or Sargo.

(Please view the pictures in this url before posting a response
http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167b.htm )

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PORPOISE AS A MODEL:
Pros:
- conning tower shears more accurate
- seems about a foot or two wider
- torpedo layout historically correct for narwhal

Cons:
- A couple feet shorter in length then Sargo
- No ammunition stores modeled in late war tower
- No netguard


Porpoise early war with duel guns:


Porpoise Late war with duel guns:


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SARGO AS MODEL:
Pros:
- A couple feet longer in length
- aft main deck features make it look a bit more distinctive
- external shell storage modled on late war tower
- has netguard, which the Narwhal also had

Cons:
- Torpedo tube layout, historically incorrect (2 extra aft tubes that need to go bye bye)
- Periscope shears, i think are a bit taller then the narwhales

Early war Sargo with duel guns:


Late war Sargo with duel guns:



Lastley, a two close ups of both side by side.

Sargo in foreground:


Porpoise in foreground



Again, a top down view:

Porpoise on top, sargo on bottom:


Sargo on top, Porpoise on bottom:





Post which one you'd prefer. Porpoise or Sargo
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Old 11-20-07, 04:01 PM   #6
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The main difference that gave the Narwhal away was, aside from the bigger size (Really huge), the deck gun platforms. So yes, I think the Sargo looks overall more appropiate, but then again the torpedo tube layout is not correct. Given that I play without external views normally, I think I personally would prefer the Porpoise as base, but that's only my opinion :hmm:
I'll 2nd this opinion since I also disable external view. I also like the "bulkier" appearance. Makes it easier setting up the tubes too. Now--can you stretch it about a hundred feet ?
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Porpoise 2
Sargo 0


Vote dammit. I need other peoples opinions here. I want to have enough to be able to arrive at a decsion, so that when i get home from work, i can hit the the box running, and slam this puppy up with a D/L link tonight.
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Old 11-20-07, 05:11 PM   #8
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Sargo

Awesome you started working on this.
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Old 11-20-07, 06:36 PM   #9
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Porpoise 2
Sargo 0


Vote dammit.
Porpoise, dammit!:rotfl:
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Old 11-20-07, 03:43 PM   #10
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Sweet cant wait!
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