Has Anyone heard of the Liberty Dollar???

[elite_hunter_sh3]

So much for freedom, may as well toss that out the window.

The following message was emailed to people subscribed to libertydollar.org

Dear Liberty Dollar Supporters:

I sincerely regret to inform you that about 8:00 this morning a dozen FBI and Secret Service agents raided the Liberty Dollar office in Evansville.

For approximately six hours they took all the gold, all the silver, all the platinum and almost two tons of Ron Paul Dollars that where just delivered last Friday. They also took all the files, all the computers and froze our bank accounts.

We have no money. We have no products. We have no records to even know what was ordered or what you are owed. We have nothing but the will to push forward and overcome this massive assault on our liberty and our right to have real money as defined by the US Constitution. We should not to be defrauded by the fake government money.

But to make matters worse, all the gold and silver that backs up the paper certificates and digital currency held in the vault at Sunshine Mint has also been confiscated. Even the dies for mint the Gold and Silver Libertys have been taken.

This in spite of the fact that Edmond C. Moy, the Director of the Mint, acknowledged in a letter to a US Senator that the paper certificates did not violate Section 486 and were not illegal. But the FBI and Services took all the paper currency too.

The possibility of such action was the reason the Liberty Dollar was designed so that the vast majority of the money was in specie form and in the people’s hands. Of the $20 million Liberty Dollars, only about a million is in paper or digital form.

I regret that if you are due an order. It may be some time until it will be filled... if ever... it now all depends on our actions.

Everyone who has an unfulfilled order or has digital or paper currency should band together for a class action suit and demand redemption. We cannot allow the government to steal our money! Please don’t let this happen!!! Many of you read the articles quoting the government and Federal Reserve officials that the Liberty Dollar was legal. You did nothing wrong. You are legally entitled to your property. Let us use this terrible act to band together and further our goal – to return America to a value based currency.

Please forward this important Alert... so everyone who possess or use the Liberty Dollar is aware of the situation.

Please click HERE to sign up for the class action lawsuit and get your property back!

If the above link does not work you can access the page by copying the following into your web browser. http://www.libertydollar.org/classaction/index.php

Thanks again for your support at this darkest time as the damn government and their dollar sinks to a new low.

Bernard von NotHaus

Monetary Architect

Feds lower boom on alternative money
http://www.usatoday.com/money/2006-0...rty-usat_x.htm

www.halturnershow.com

*****BREAKING NEWS *****

FEDS SEIZE "LIBERTY DOLLARS" AND ALL GOLD / SILVER / PLATINUM BACKING THE PAPER VERSION OF THE LIBERTY DOLLAR!
PERFECTLY LAWFUL PRIVATE CURRENCY, IN CIRCULATION FOR YEARS, WAS BECOMING TOO MUCH COMPETITION FOR WORTHLESS FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES!

Agents from FBI and Secret Service committed armed robbery this morning when they set upon the headquarters of the LIBERTY DOLLAR and "seized" all coins, paper currency and bullion backing that currency.

The robbery lasted about 6 hours and as of now, the LIBERTY DOLLAR has been destroyed by the criminal gang calling itself the United States Government.

Folks, this is a trial run. . . . . the feds want to see what happens now that they have intentionally destroyed a "currency." They want to see if anyone will rise up and attack them for intentionally wrecking a legal and valuable currency.

If they get attacked, they know they won't be able to do the exact same thing with the U.S. Dollar. If they do not get attacked, it will be a green light to perpetrate the exact same type of wreckage upon the rest of the population by wrecking the U.S. Dollar and replacing it with the AMERO.

I think the FBI Indianapolis Division (covering Evansville) should be physically surrounded by Patriots armed with guns and the LIBERTY DOLLARS and BULLION be recovered by any means necessary. If not, the U.S. Government will feel free to perpetrate the same act upon our regular currency as they have just done to the LIBERTY DOLLAR.

For those who do not know what the "Liberty Dollar" is, watch the following videos.

[Reaves]

bit off topic but I love Hal Turner. Used to listen to his show all the time, sad thing people never donated.

[August]

I think the FBI Indianapolis Division (covering Evansville) should be physically surrounded by Patriots armed with guns and the LIBERTY DOLLARS and BULLION be recovered by any means necessary. If not, the U.S. Government will feel free to perpetrate the same act upon our regular currency as they have just done to the LIBERTY DOLLAR.

What right does a foreign kid like yourself have to advocate such a thing?

[Reaves]

Originally Posted by August

What right does a foreign kid like yourself have to advocate such a thing?

Yeah he's foreign which means his opionion is automatically forfeit.

[August]

Originally Posted by Reaves

Yeah he's foreign which means his opionion is automatically forfeit.

When it comes to advocating stuff like that it darn sure does.

[Reaves]

Originally Posted by August

When it comes to advocating stuff like that it darn sure does.

Well I agree with him although I'm also not one of you....


The only reason they have taken the Liberty Dollar down is because the USD is going so poorly. There is no valid reason the dollar should be illegal as it is similar to trading in gold or even stocks for that matter.


What's next? Your not allowed to keep gold bullion?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by August

When it comes to advocating stuff like that it darn sure does.

For once I agree with August. The regular dollar is of concern for people around the globe and does not exclusively effect Americans, so foreigner'S interest in America's internal way of handling dollar-related actions is vital and perfectly legitimate. The liberty dollar, however, is truly internal and internationally plays no role, it affects nobody outide the US. Advocating then from the outside to start civil uprise is a bit rich.

We have three dozen local currencies in Germany as well, I hope I remember that "3 dozen" correctly. Mostly they are limited to a town or city, often just parts of a medium-sized city, and nationally do not play any significant role. Mostly it is local traders and busniess networks supporting them within the realm of their business area. There it seems to have benefits, for these currencies are survicing since years, and still occasionally new ones get implemented. Some others also have died meanwhile. Telling all this by memory and a longer essay I have read somewhere two or three years back.

Where I start to feel uncomfortable is when such currencies get named with titles like "Freiheits-Euro", or "Ron Paul dollar". The obvious pathetic political opportunism and catch-phrasing does not sound well in my ears, with "freedom fries" still on my mind... It's clear that such a currency is not so much serving a constuctive, economic interest, but gets used as a vehicle to transport a political message. And that should not be what currencies are about. I assume this is in some way the background for the raids.

[joea]

Originally Posted by Swede

bit off topic but I love Hal Turner. Used to listen to his show all the time, sad thing people never donated.

Big surprise.

BTW August, I disagree about foreigners commenting on other countries. I used to get annoyed when Americans made comments on Canadian politics (I know it's as rare as hen's teeth) or other countries til I realised everyone does it anyway. Fact is, a well informed foreign opinion is worth more than an ignorant domestic one FWIW.

[August]

Originally Posted by joea

BTW August, I disagree about foreigners commenting on other countries. I used to get annoyed when Americans made comments on Canadian politics (I know it's as rare as hen's teeth) or other countries til I realised everyone does it anyway. Fact is, a well informed foreign opinion is worth more than an ignorant domestic one FWIW.

It's not just any comment Joe, it's the use of "our" when he's not a member of this country as well as his eagerness for armed confrontation amongst others. He's like the person who hovers on the edge of a fight screaming "kill him".

Imagine for a second me saying something like "Canadian patriots armed with guns ought to surround the local Mountie office and take back that seized evidence by any means necessary because they have no right to mess with our Canadian currency".

Now we're I to say something like that you would have every right to object to my use of the word "our" as well as to keep my Yankee nose out of your business. Right?

[RickC Sniper]

August I have issues with elite_hunter as well.



...this post of his in a different thread about George W. Bush.

"hes not a man at all, hes a filthy moronic coward, only thing he deserves right now, is to be tortured to the extreme, then executed... "



His posts are often irrational and his opinions juvenile.

[RickC Sniper]

What if a bank chose to print it's own currency?

An interesting article on this topic.

"all kinds of alternative currencies exist. Gift certificates, Disney Dollars, casino
chips, product-purchase points, and so on are all forms of exchange that lie somewhere on the spectrum between barter and honest-to-God Federal Reserve Notes. Back in the bad old days, companies that ran company towns paid workers in company scrip that could be redeemed nowhere but the company store. These days, credit card and other companies often use airline miles as de facto scrip to reward loyal customers."

http://www.libertydollar.org/news-st...1171681660.pdf

[joea]

Originally Posted by August

It's not just any comment Joe, it's the use of "our" when he's not a member of this country as well as his eagerness for armed confrontation amongst others. He's like the person who hovers on the edge of a fight screaming "kill him".

Imagine for a second me saying something like "Canadian patriots armed with guns ought to surround the local Mountie office and take back that seized evidence by any means necessary because they have no right to mess with our Canadian currency".

Now we're I to say something like that you would have every right to object to my use of the word "our" as well as to keep my Yankee nose out of your business. Right?

Well, I was speaking in general terms but yes in this particular case you are right. Which is why I said, well-informed posters. Not confused young teens who don't even realise what certain extremist movements and their "spiritual grandfathers" really think of their ethnic group, nor what communism really meant.