Trying To Gather Modding Tools

10-31-07, 06:54 PM

I want to mod this game to the point where I'm pretty much invincible with killer weapons. I've had it up to my eyeballs with the crashes and at the rate I'm going, I'll never complete a mission. So, I'm resorting to all out cheating.

I checked around the net for tools but everything is scattered with outdated links that I have to sort through. Is there a single user friendly tool that I can use to mod the sim and zon files in Silent Hunter 4? I tried that Mini Tweaker as well as all the other tools associated with it but they either need SH3 or they just don't work as indicated.

leovampire · 10-31-07, 07:09 PM

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=115333

unrealistic but the sub's are hard to kill.

10-31-07, 07:30 PM

Cool. Does this work with all versions of the game? I tried a mod before and it didn't work well with the latest patch. I prefer realism too, but when the game crashes as often as it does, I find that issue takes away from the realism itself. This is especially painful when you play the game without accellerating the time.

leovampire · 10-31-07, 07:39 PM

I do not know as I do not use it and never have. So either post and ask in there or send a PM to the creator of the mod.

11-01-07, 07:52 AM

Is there a tool that I can use to mod these files myself? I'd actually prefer that since I have been editing the save file.

ReallyDedPoet · 11-01-07, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubSuck

Is there a tool that I can use to mod these files myself? I'd actually prefer that since I have been editing the save file.

Have a look at this thread if you have not seen it. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=124340

Edit: Noticed your post in the thread, good luck with it.

RDP

11-01-07, 09:22 AM

Alright. I got the tweaker to work after collecting all the tweaker files I needed. Now, my problem is how do I apply them to the existing dat and zon files? Thanks!

ReallyDedPoet · 11-01-07, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubSuck

Alright. I got the tweaker to work after collecting all the tweaker files I needed. Now, my problem is how do I apply them to the existing dat and zon files? Thanks!

Have a look here, nice tutorial:http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...62&postcount=3

RDP

11-01-07, 09:45 AM

Interesting. According to that link, the files don't need to be converted. We'll see.

11-01-07, 10:12 AM

Yeah, just as I thought. That tutorial states nothing about applying the tweaked files to the actual zon and dat files within the Silent Hunter directory. I've already done the editing, now I just need to apply the files.

I'm too used to XML where editing is simple Notepad work.

ReallyDedPoet · 11-01-07, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubSuck

Yeah, just as I thought. That tutorial states nothing about applying the tweaked files to the actual zon and dat files within the Silent Hunter directory. I've already done the editing, now I just need to apply the files.

I'm too used to XML where editing is simple Notepad work.

Once you do the work with the mini-tweaker it is automatically applied and creates a back-up of the original.

RDP

11-01-07, 11:42 AM

Ah. That's why it needed the alternate directory. Here I thought that was to stop the annoying popup for SH3. Having worked with so many difficult programs, this is the first one made easy.

Probably helps if I paid more attention. Thanks for the help! Good to see fellow Canucks play this game too.

ReallyDedPoet · 11-01-07, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubSuck

Ah. That's why it needed the alternate directory. Here I thought that was to stop the annoying popup for SH3. Having worked with so many difficult programs, this is the first one made easy.

Probably helps if I paid more attention. Thanks for the help! Good to see fellow Canucks play this game too.

Quite a few of us here actually

RDP

11-01-07, 12:14 PM

Apparently the Balao.zon tweaker file included with the modtools save actually belongs to a Japanese sub. Is there an alternative save with the necessary tweaker files? Thanks!

DrBeast · 11-01-07, 12:21 PM

One thing to keep in mind: upping the armor level and hitpoints of your sub does NOT make you indestructible. All the subsystems (i.e. engines, sensors, guns, various compartments etc) have their own allocated hitpoints, which you also have to modify, otherwise you'll end up with a perfectly intact hull but an otherwise completely FUBARed sub in which NO systems go

The files to be modified are in the Data\UPCData directory. Search for the ones which lists the sub's substructures, find the mention of Hitpoints of every subsystem, and modify accordingly. These .upc files can be easily modified with Notepad, but of course, keep a backup of your originals in case something goes wrong. Hope this helps!

10-31-07, 06:54 PM	#1
SubSuck Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Trying To Gather Modding Tools I want to mod this game to the point where I'm pretty much invincible with killer weapons. I've had it up to my eyeballs with the crashes and at the rate I'm going, I'll never complete a mission. So, I'm resorting to all out cheating. I checked around the net for tools but everything is scattered with outdated links that I have to sort through. Is there a single user friendly tool that I can use to mod the sim and zon files in Silent Hunter 4? I tried that Mini Tweaker as well as all the other tools associated with it but they either need SH3 or they just don't work as indicated.

10-31-07, 07:09 PM	#2
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	sounds like you want this mod http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=115333 unrealistic but the sub's are hard to kill. __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water

10-31-07, 07:39 PM	#4
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	you have to post and ask in that thread I do not know as I do not use it and never have. So either post and ask in there or send a PM to the creator of the mod. __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water

11-01-07, 12:21 PM	#15
DrBeast The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Somewhere Out In Space Posts: 1,408 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	One thing to keep in mind: upping the armor level and hitpoints of your sub does NOT make you indestructible. All the subsystems (i.e. engines, sensors, guns, various compartments etc) have their own allocated hitpoints, which you also have to modify, otherwise you'll end up with a perfectly intact hull but an otherwise completely FUBARed sub in which NO systems go The files to be modified are in the Data\UPCData directory. Search for the ones which lists the sub's substructures, find the mention of Hitpoints of every subsystem, and modify accordingly. These .upc files can be easily modified with Notepad, but of course, keep a backup of your originals in case something goes wrong. Hope this helps! __________________ Let the Beast inside you free!

10-31-07, 07:30 PM	#3
SubSuck Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Cool. Does this work with all versions of the game? I tried a mod before and it didn't work well with the latest patch. I prefer realism too, but when the game crashes as often as it does, I find that issue takes away from the realism itself. This is especially painful when you play the game without accellerating the time.

11-01-07, 07:52 AM	#5
SubSuck Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Is there a tool that I can use to mod these files myself? I'd actually prefer that since I have been editing the save file.

11-01-07, 09:22 AM	#7
SubSuck Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Alright. I got the tweaker to work after collecting all the tweaker files I needed. Now, my problem is how do I apply them to the existing dat and zon files? Thanks!

11-01-07, 09:45 AM	#9
SubSuck Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Interesting. According to that link, the files don't need to be converted. We'll see.

11-01-07, 10:12 AM	#10
SubSuck Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Yeah, just as I thought. That tutorial states nothing about applying the tweaked files to the actual zon and dat files within the Silent Hunter directory. I've already done the editing, now I just need to apply the files. I'm too used to XML where editing is simple Notepad work.

11-01-07, 11:42 AM	#12
SubSuck Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Ah. That's why it needed the alternate directory. Here I thought that was to stop the annoying popup for SH3. Having worked with so many difficult programs, this is the first one made easy. Probably helps if I paid more attention. Thanks for the help! Good to see fellow Canucks play this game too.

11-01-07, 12:14 PM	#14
SubSuck Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Apparently the Balao.zon tweaker file included with the modtools save actually belongs to a Japanese sub. Is there an alternative save with the necessary tweaker files? Thanks!