This is a first for me...

[U49]

I know that situation too.
But for one thing you can be sure:

2 millions planned, 800k achieved, that is roughly about 50%.
50% leads us to one you two has to go, OK. I understand this calculation.
BUT:
50% cut in mid-level management ???
50% cut in big-boss-pay-check???

An idea:
Offer both of you to leave (this makes 100% to save money, should make the big-boss happy) and go both to the competition?

[jumpy]

^^
hehe, this is sort of what we've discussed amongst ourselves. Neither of us will be comfortable remaining in an unpleasent situation at work, with the spectre of further redundancy lurking around the next corner.

TBH I find the whole thing to be something to be turned to my advantage = get a better paid job elsewhere after the prefect "reason for leaving your last job" you can't very well say 'because it were ***t!' now can you?

And to top this all off today, my better half is in hospital having her sinuses cleaned out and enlarged slightly. So from about 8pm UK time, I've been sat with my nearest and dearest whilst she has been coughing up blood like you wouldn't believe, bleeding out of her eyes, not her nose as this is packed with gauze etc . As part of an on-going problem, she would have had to wait another 7 months to have it done on the NHS, but is cost 4 days in time to arrange and £2112.00 to have it done in a private hospital. You get better treatment and care if you pay for it, that's for sure.

All round perfect timing for a redundancy eh? Bunch of c**** that they are.

[SUBMAN1]

Being partially redundant is an OK thing. You can make the mistake in which you become indispensable, and in that case, you get a glass ceiling put over your head. You will never get laid off, but you will also never get promoted. Stuck in a dead end job forever unless you physically change it. Redundancy has it's plus side.

-S

[The WosMan]

I hear that.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by jumpy

As part of an on-going problem, she would have had to wait another 7 months to have it done on the NHS, but is cost 4 days in time to arrange and £2112.00 to have it done in a private hospital. You get better treatment and care if you pay for it, that's for sure.

My farther had a choice NHS waiting time one year and no guarantee or BUPA at the cost of £4000 odd pounds and be operated in less than a month he went private. Another year of a lot of pain waiting on the NHS was no way, so much for the Labour promises which turned out to be lies.

Hope your wife is alright jumpy.

[DeepIron]

to take voluntary redundancy...

Excuse my ignorance, is this the same as being voluntarily "laid off" versus "We terminate your employment"?

[STEED]

Originally Posted by DeepIron

Excuse my ignorance, is this the same as being voluntariy "laid off" versus "We terminate your employment"?

What it means you say bye, bye and they don't have the burden to lay you off, I say give them the burden that's why they get the big money.

[DeepIron]

I agree... Give 'em the burden, and maybe a little heartburn to go with it...

My last (and final) job as an IT Admin required me to write down the various username/passwords used throughout the network, routers, firewalls, servers, etc., and give them to my (former) boss.

I got "terminated" without notice and management used the "poor job performance" excuse, even after I had received a substantial raise and a glowing evaluation not two months earlier and had managed a $250K ERP upgrade project and brought it in under budget

Anyway, my (former) boss called me up about a month after I left because he needed the passwords to the routers and firewall. I asked him why and he said "he misplaced them"... He was hoping I would "do him a favor"...

I told him it would cost them $10K for me to come back and take care of the problem as a consultant because I didn't work for them anymore...

[Chock]

Obviously this is not a pleasant situation to be in, and both my missus and myself have been in it too in the past. But what is compensatory, is the knowledge that if the company was trying to save money in letting you go, it's the beginning of a downward spiral for them, and their situation will not be improved by the loss of you or your colleague, both of whom will take all their experience out of the door too when they go.

Typically what will happen is that the company will realise that they really did need two people, and so will attempt to get someone in for a lot less money. And when they pay peanuts, they will of course get a monkey. What they really should address is the management who failed in getting enough work for both you and your colleague in the first place, but of course it was their decision, so that never happens, still, rest assured that their time will come.

My wife Max read this over my shoulder and concurred with me that frankly, if you are with a company like that, apart from the pain in the ass of switching jobs and a relatively short period of difficulty while that happens, you're better off out of there.

'Sit back and laugh your ass off when they all lose their jobs in three months time, like I did!' - that was a quote from my wife. Who now does work she used to do at that company, but as freelancer, and gets paid twice as much for doing it in half the time:rotfl:

Chock

[jumpy]

Thanks for those encouraging words, all.
Missy is back home and propped up amongst loads of pillows on the sofa, like some latter day elder duchess. When I have a minute to spare from running about looking after her, I shall fill you in on the work things as it stands after tomorrow.